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#1081595 - 12/06/06 11:03 PM Air Bag code - What does it mean?
GhostRider Offline

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Ok today I was driving along and the air bag light started to flash. It flashed 4 times, then 2 times and stopped. then repeated itself 4 more times in that order:

4...2

4...2

4...2

4...2

4...2

After the fifth time, I got a steady burn air bag light. What is the code? What is the problem and how is it solved? Thanks!
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#1081596 - 12/06/06 11:09 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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might want to make sure thats not 24 instead of 42, as i dont find that listed..heres a paste of info sent to me before.


PRIORITY,CODE,COMPONENT/FAULT DESCRIPTION
Highest,No Indicator,Inoperative Lamp Circuit or No Ignition Voltage to Diagnostic Monitor
,Continuous Indicator,Diagnostic Monitor Disconnected or Inoperative
,12,Low Battery Voltage
,13,Air Bag or Crash Sensor Circuit Shorted to Ground
,21,Safing Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
,22,Safing Sensor Output Circuit Shorted to Battery Voltage
,23,Safing Sensor Input Feed/Return Circuit Open
,24,Safing Sensor Output Feed/Return Circuit Open or Low Resistance in a Primary Crash Sensor
,32,Driver Side Air Bag Circuit High Resistance or Open
,33,Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit High Resistance or Open
,34,Driver Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted
,35,Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted
,41,Primary Crash Sensor Circuits High Resistance or Open
,44,RH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
,45,Circuit Going to RH Radiator Ground Monitor Splice Open
,46,LH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Not Mounted to Vehicle Properly
,51,Diagnostic Monitor Internal Thermal Fuse Blown and Short to Ground No Longer Exists. Short to Ground was Serviced or is Intermittent
,52,Back-up Power Supply Voltage Boost Fault
,53,Internal Diagnostic Monitor Fault
Lowest,Rapid Continuous Flashing,All Primary Crash Sensors Disconnected
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#1081597 - 12/06/06 11:14 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
GhostRider Offline

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its 4 2...from this post , I guess it means

Code 42 - LH Radiator Primary Crash Sensor Feed/Return Circuit Open

Can anyone elaborate on this? How is this fixed?
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#1081598 - 12/07/06 12:21 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Didn't you install an air-horn recently, Tim?

I think you accidentally bumped the connector loose off the Air-Bag crash sensor behind the grille / on the header panel
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#1081599 - 12/07/06 12:25 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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#1081600 - 12/07/06 07:51 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Didn't you install an air-horn recently, Tim?

I think you accidentally bumped the connector loose off the Air-Bag crash sensor behind the grille / on the header panel


Derek, this has nothing to do with the air horn as I didnt get to that project due to snow. I will PM you in reference to this.

Last time and only time I had an issue with the air bag was in May 2003. On May 5, 2003, (91196 miles) the dealer discovered the air bag monitor defective due to light being on. On May 6, 2006 I ordered the Air Bag Monitor for $153.56 (Part Number F6AZ-14B215-AC). On May 14, 2006 (91983 miles) I had it installed.
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#1081601 - 12/07/06 10:10 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
GhostRider Offline

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Update: I checked fuses 10, 13, 18 in reference to the Air Bag Module. All ok and not blown. I disconnected the battery and the code is still there.

Derek, do you have a pic of the LH sensor? My Haynes manual is useless to this as usual.

Any suggestions?
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#1081602 - 12/07/06 10:50 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Lower right corner in the pic below:
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#1081603 - 12/07/06 10:57 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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I gotta run out to work for a bit, but when I get back I'll get your the FSM procedure for code 42.
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#1081604 - 12/07/06 11:28 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
GhostRider Offline

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Thanks Derek for all your help! You rock!

For those that require a visual aide (like me), here are pics of the Crash sensors

LH (Drivers Side)




RH (Passenger Side)



Now, you will notice a red wire in the first 2 pics of the LH sensor that goes across the front (also visible in the RH pic). This is a dealer installed jumper wire of some sort from when they replaced the airbag monitor. An installer once cut this wire (thinking it was for old police equipment) and the airbag light instantly went on so they reconnected it.

So I checked the connections and all seem snug. I really am nervous working on airbag systems as I do not want it deployed on accident.
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#1081605 - 12/07/06 11:34 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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If Ford ever found out that a DEALER patched an SRS wire like that, they'd probably pull their franchise. If you're ever in a wreck & you have ANY injuries related to the airbags, you could win a HUUUUUGE judgement against that dealer, & possibly Ford too, for tacitly allowing them to do it.

AFAIK, no mfr. allows repairs of ANY kind to an SRS harness. I'd take the car back & invite them to replace that harness & fix your airbag light FREE, whether it's related to that wire or not.
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#1081606 - 12/07/06 11:41 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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you must remember, the monitor was replaced in 2003. That was 3 years ago. Now I am having a problem. I dont know if its related so I cannot prove it.
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#1081607 - 12/07/06 01:13 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Sorry guys don't mean to jump in on your post but I also get an air bag light flashing, but it is flashing a code 21. I noticed by one of the above threads that it pertains to a "safing" sensor not correctly mounted to vehicle. what is this and where can i find its location. 96 cv 192400
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#1081608 - 12/07/06 07:42 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
Corsair Offline
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normally behind drivers side kickpanel. if the safing sensor detects the crash sensor activate, then allows current to go to airbag to deploy. cant remember the exacts, but thats basically it in a nutshell. perhaps it fell off and isnt grounding now?
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#1081609 - 12/07/06 08:10 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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It doesn't matter how long ago they patched the SRS system - they're gonna have to fix it. And let THEM tell YOU it wasn't related AFTER they've fixed whatever the problem is at THEIR expense. It's their penalty for letting you drive around with that BS red wire for 3 years. They're lucky it's not your WIDOW or your lawyer talking to them. But don't hesitate to remind them of that if they give you ANY flak about it.
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#1081610 - 12/07/06 08:46 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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That red wire is the most mickey-mouse hack job I've seen all day.

See all those crimp connections? With time those relax, and you get a crappy connection, likely contributing to yoru problem.


If you feel nervous, disconnect the battery for 30mins or so before hand to discharge the capacitor(s)


I would do as Steve said, get them to fix that. That is a major lawsuit waiting to happen with that setup. If they wont do it, well, you know the first place to start repairing
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#1081611 - 12/07/06 10:43 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Quote:

That red wire is the most mickey-mouse hack job I've seen all day.

See all those crimp connections? With time those relax, and you get a crappy connection, likely contributing to yoru problem.


If you feel nervous, disconnect the battery for 30mins or so before hand to discharge the capacitor(s)


I would do as Steve said, get them to fix that. That is a major lawsuit waiting to happen with that setup. If they wont do it, well, you know the first place to start repairing




Also agree. Airbags are nothing to mess with expecially cutting wires at the stealership from a ford mechanic, go back and give them an ear full, or tell them you will be talking to your lawer about the wire BS.
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#1081612 - 12/07/06 11:09 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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I cant go back. I moved away.

Derek, Do you have the FSM procedure for code 42?

Also, the red wire is connected to the LH side. It runs from there to the fire wall to the Air bag monitor. There only used to be 1 connection but it got cut by the installer, not knowing that it was for the airbag monitor.
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#1081613 - 12/07/06 11:41 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Then you need to re-repair it correctly, using weatherproof heat-shrink tubing & solder, and route it properly with the rest of the harness so it doesn't get abraded or pinched. Why the @*#^%(* didn't they just splice it back into the original wire inside the harness???
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#1081614 - 12/07/06 11:42 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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I will wait for Derek to chime in with the FSM procedure before I go to the dealer.

I dont really have the tools or time to do it right at this time and like I said, dont want to mess with doing stuff like that to the airbag. I know that the monitor functions properly, minue this current issue.
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#1081615 - 12/08/06 09:19 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Sorry I took so long, been busy and the FSM is kinda a PITA to copy pinpoints :

I put **** by a section I feel you should look into carefully. Make sure to disconnect the battery before working on any circuits.

Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


Normal Operation

The voltage at Pin C1-15, Circuit 619 (PK/W) is set by the air bag diagnostic monitor to be slightly less than battery voltage. Circuit 619 (PK/W) is connected to Circuit 625 (Y/LG) inside LH primary crash sensor. Therefore, the voltage at Circuit 625 and air bag diagnostic monitor Pin C2-23 should be the same as the voltage at air bag diagnostic monitor Pin C1-15, Circuit 619 (PK/W).

The air bag diagnostic monitor periodically pulls the voltage at Pin C1-15, Circuit 619 (PK/W) low to verify the connection to Pin C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG). If the voltage at Pin C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG) does not pull low as a result of this test, air bag diagnostic monitor will store in memory DTC B1942 and flash lamp fault code 42 on the AIR BAG indicator. If the connection between Pins C1-15, Circuit 625 (Y/LG) and C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG) is later serviced, DTC B1942 will be stored in memory.

Possible Causes

1) Failure to get low voltage at Pin C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG) during the test can be caused by:
an open circuit in the wiring harness in either Circuit 619 (PK/W) or Circuit 625 (Y/LG).

2) an open circuit inside left primary crash sensor across Circuit 619 (PK/W) or Circuit 625 (Y/LG).

3) a short to battery or ignition voltage in any of the Circuits 617 (PK/O), 619 (PK/W), 624 (Y/W), 625 (Y/LG).


Electrical Schematic--Diagnostic Trouble Code B1942--Lamp Fault Code 42




Follow-up pinpoints:
B1942-1: CHECK FOR HARD OR INTERMITTENT DTC
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-1 CHECK FOR HARD OR INTERMITTENT DTC


l Connect Rotunda New Generation Star (NGS) Tester 007-00500 or equivalent to DLC located under the instrument panel.

l Perform On-Demand Self-Test as outlined in this section.

l Was DTC B1942 retrieved?

Yes
NOTE: This is a hard fault. The fault condition is still present. This fault may not be cleared until it is corrected and the DTC is no longer retrieved during on-demand self-test.
GO to B1942-2.

No
NOTE: This is an intermittent fault. The fault condition is not present at this time.
GO to B1942-6.






B1942-2: MEASURE RESISTANCE
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-2 MEASURE RESISTANCE


l Deactivate system.

l Disconnect air bag diagnostic monitor.

l Set ohmmeter to 200 ohm scale or AUTO.

l Zero ohmmeter by touching leads together and record resistance reading.

l Measure resistance between air bag diagnostic monitor harness connector Pins C1-15, Circuit 619 (PK/W) and C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG). Subtract the reading found when zeroing ohmmeter.

l Is resistance less than 2 ohms?

Yes
GO to B1942-3.

No
GO to B1942-4.






B1942-3: CHECK FOR SHORTS TO BATTERY

Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-3 CHECK FOR SHORTS TO BATTERY


l With air bag diagnostic monitor disconnected, turn ignition switch to RUN position.

l Measure the voltage between the following air bag diagnostic monitor harness pins and ground:

Pin C1-15, Circuit 619 (PK/W)

Pin C1-16, Circuit 617 (PK/O)

Pin C2-23, Circuit 625 (Y/LG)

Pin C2-24, Circuit 624 (Y/W)

l Is the voltage greater than zero on any of these wires?

Yes
SERVICE short to B+ on appropriate circuit. GO to B1942-10.

No
REPLACE air bag diagnostic monitor. RECONNECT system. VERIFY system. GO to B1942-10.






B1942-4: CHECK LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-4 CHECK LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR


l Access LH primary crash sensor as outlined.

l Disconnect sensor from harness.

l Measure resistance between Circuit 619 (PK/W) and 625 (Y/LG) wires in sensor side of connector.

l Is the resistance reading less than 2 ohms?

Yes
GO to B1942-5.

No
REPLACE LH primary crash sensor. VERIFY system. GO to B1942-10.






B1942-5: CHECK CIRCUIT 619 (PK/W) FOR OPEN
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-5 CHECK CIRCUIT 619 (PK/W) FOR OPEN


l Disconnect air bag diagnostic monitor.

l Disconnect LH primary crash sensor.

l Using an ohmmeter, check the continuity of Circuit 619 (PK/W) between LH primary crash sensor connector and Pin C1-15 of air bag diagnostic monitor.

l Is resistance less than 2 ohms?

Yes
SERVICE Circuit 625 (Y/LG) for an open. RECONNECT system. VERIFY system. REACTIVATE system. GO to B1942-10.

No
SERVICE Circuit 619 (PK/W) for an open. RECONNECT system. VERIFY system. REACTIVATE system. GO to B1942-10.






B1942-6: CHECK FOR SERVICED DTCS
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-6 CHECK FOR SERVICED DTCS


l Deactivate system.

l Has a DTC B1942 just been serviced?

Yes
GO to B1942-10.

No
GO to B1942-7.




B1942-7: CHECK WIRES*****

Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-7 CHECK WIRES


l Note: An intermittent open in these circuits may lead to a DTC B1942.

Visually inspect the wires, crimps, connectors, etc. on Circuits 619 (PK/W) and 625 (Y/LG). Look for signs of poor connections.***** Look at those crimps, Tim!!!

l Are any concerns noticed?

Yes
SERVICE any concerns found. GO to B1942-10.

No
GO to B1942-8.




B1942-8: CHECK FOR SHORT TO BATTERY
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-8 CHECK FOR SHORT TO BATTERY


l Note: An intermittent short to battery or ignition on any of these circuits may cause a DTC B1941 and a DTC B1942.

Visually inspect Circuits:

617 (PK/O)

619 (PK/W)

624 (Y/W)

625 (Y/LG)

Look for signs of wire-to-wire or other shorts to battery, ignition or another high voltage.

l Are any concerns noticed?

Yes
SERVICE any concerns if found. GO to B1942-10.

No
GO to B1942-9.





B1942-9: CHECK SENSOR
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-9 CHECK SENSOR


l Locate and visually inspect LH primary crash sensor. Look for signs of corrosion.

l Are any concerns noticed?

Yes
REPLACE LH primary crash sensor. If significant corrosion is noticed, GO to B1942-10.

No
RE-EXAMINE fault code description and schematic. LOOK for causes of intermittent opens or high resistance in the appropriate circuits. ATTEMPT to recreate hard faults by driving vehicle, flexing wire harnesses, etc., cycling ignition switch frequently. SERVICE any intermittent problems if found. GO to B1942-10




B1942-10: CHECK FOR OTHER DTCS
Quote:

Pinpoint Tests

DTC B1942: LH PRIMARY CRASH SENSOR FEED/RETURN CIRCUIT OPEN--LAMP FAULT CODE 42


B1942-10 CHECK FOR OTHER DTCS


Note: Do not clear any DTC's until all DTC's are addressed.

l Connect NGS to DLC located under the instrument panel.

l Select: IABM

l Select: Diagnostic Test Modes

l Select: Retrieve/clear continuous DTCs

l Were any other DTCs retrieved?

Yes
Note: Do not clear any DTC's until all DTC's are addressed.
REFER to DTC Index and PROCEED to proper pinpoint test to CONTINUE diagnostics.

No
REACTIVATE system as outlined. CLEAR all DTCs as outlined.












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#1081616 - 12/08/06 09:51 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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WOW!..lol..that might as well be in Chinese...lol Thanks anyhow Gov.

Appt made at Ford for 12-12-06 at 0800 hrs. Also while I am there I will get the fan clutch (F6AZ-8A616-AA...$164.37) fixed while I am there since the engine is loud in warmer weather. This was discussed in this thread
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1997 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (12-23-02 to 11-21-07)
2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
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#1081617 - 12/08/06 06:58 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Quote:

dRock
...the FSM is kinda a PITA to copy pinpoints...


Quote:

firefighter69
...that might as well be in Chinese...lol Thanks anyhow Gov. Appt made at Ford...


That's 2 reasons why I don't take the time to post those long, technical procedures. I figure anyone who is actually going to do it will want the whole CD anyway.
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#1081618 - 12/09/06 12:01 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Yea; by the time you get the picture(s) copied, uploaded, then copy and paste all of the subroutines in the correct/readible format, the time really adds up.
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#1081619 - 12/11/06 04:57 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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You may want to check the grounding strap that connects from the frame rail to the rad support. While doing some work on my 95 way back when, I had disconected this and failed to reconnect it. Despite the other obvious connections to the rad support ie: fenders hood etc... I got an airbag code that would not go away till I found that grounding strap not attached and replaced it. I would speculate you have a grounding problem, or the sensor is in-op for god only knows why reason. I hate Ford SRS systems...

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#1081620 - 12/12/06 10:55 AM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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Ok so here is the outcome. It would appear that the red wire was the problem. So what did they (dealer) do? They removed the red wire only to put another wire with heat shrink on it. That and they replaced my much needed fan clutch.
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#1081621 - 12/12/06 01:39 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
Steve83 Offline
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...and you LET them.



...AGAIN.


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#1081622 - 12/12/06 04:19 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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...and you LET them.



...AGAIN.





Look..I dont care. The monitor works like it should. The light is off. Obviously Ford doesnt think its a big deal. I will bet that if I brought it to any dealer, they would have done the same thing upon discovering the red wire. As long as all is in proper working order, I dont see the need to go raise hell.
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#1081623 - 12/12/06 08:03 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
ap7196 Offline
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I kinda agree as long as it funtions like it should.

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#1081624 - 12/12/06 08:58 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean?
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I kinda agree as long as it funtions like it should.



Probably what the tech that did that hack job the first time around said. Things may be 'good enough' at the time, but can lead to problems later on as Tim experienced.



Speaking of which, did you have to pay for that repair? You could have easily done it yourself. Even if it didn't solve the issue (though 99% probability said it was) it wouldn't have cost you anything but 5 mintues and maybe $1 in solder and heatsrhink.




BTW, if that red wire is still out and flopping around, tuck it back into the loom or wrap it to the loom with electrical tape. THat is just beggine to cause premature wiring damage, and possibly a short to ground, leading you to another SRS light for the samn damn wire
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#2300445 - 05/21/11 02:17 PM Re: Air Bag code - What does it mean? [Re: GhostRider]
outacontrol Offline
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Registered: 09/13/10
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Loc: Canada
I have an 01 ex-police crown vic that is flashing the air bag light 5 and then 2 times, then the light stays on.
Please help, thanks

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