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#1107972 - 01/19/07 12:54 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Paul26 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/07
Posts: 9
i see ford also makes a 4v 5.4.

http://www.cherry-auto.com/2878.html

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#1107973 - 01/19/07 06:01 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
1kftlbs Offline
n00b

Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 39
Loc: lakewood, ca
You can refer to my thread which was posted above for most of the info. I've made alot of progress since then but its a big undertaking!! Marauder pick up and 03+cv/marauder oil pan, notch the frame, marauder oil filter adapter(which doesnt fit). The oil filter adapter has the coolant coming in where the alternator goes. You will have to cut the snout and then run a hose around the alternator. This is the path im taking for now but as soon as I get it done I am gonna have my buddy fab up a tube to go around the alternator and weld it onto the adapter...





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2003 Crown Vic PI
-03 Cobra motor with marauder wiring harness and pcm
-Precision Industried 9.5" Converter(2800 stall)
-MJ Chip Modified FPDM
-8 bolt automatic Ford Racing flywheel
-Stainless Works Full Mercury Marauder Exhaust(Jet-Hot Coated)

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#1107974 - 01/19/07 06:04 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
1kftlbs Offline
n00b

Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 39
Loc: lakewood, ca
Also, what year is the car because if its not 03+ your gonna have some more issues...
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2003 Crown Vic PI
-03 Cobra motor with marauder wiring harness and pcm
-Precision Industried 9.5" Converter(2800 stall)
-MJ Chip Modified FPDM
-8 bolt automatic Ford Racing flywheel
-Stainless Works Full Mercury Marauder Exhaust(Jet-Hot Coated)

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#1107975 - 01/19/07 10:09 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Paul26 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/07
Posts: 9
on the cobra motor did all the major things fit, mounts, tranny, that kinda stuff? was the wiring slightly similar? I see that in ur sig it says fully built 4r70w, what kind of parts are in there?

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#1107976 - 01/19/07 11:51 AM A chevy LS motor would be sweet
BillyRay Offline
Member

Registered: 12/05/02
Posts: 172
It really would be the perfect motor for a CV: tonns of low end torque, 350+ hp and 25 MPG.

The engines are physically a lot smaller then the mod motors too, so I think it would be doable.

The engine would also be a lot cheaper then a blown cobra motor. you can get a complete LS1 for about 5 grand.


Edited by BillyRay (01/19/07 12:04 PM)

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#1107977 - 01/19/07 12:05 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
theredlineboss Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 1555
Loc: Taylor, MI
Paul-
What do you want out of your car?
What year car do you have?
What is your budget?
Why aren't you answering any questions?

This thread has to be one of the worst DOHC swap q n' a's I've seen in a long time.

Rob

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1996 Police Interceptor-Glory days are over frown - old specs below **216K miles**; Daily driver now a stock '97 Vic **157K miles**
Engine: '03 4.6 w/ underdrives, shorties, custom downpipes, MZT, 70MM T/B, ADTR ported plenum, & Dyno Tuned.
Trans: Y2K 4r70w w/ J-mod, Spiral Lock clip, '04 Marauder TC, and an Econoline trans cooler.
Suspension/steering/brakes: '02 PI steering box, 17" 'stang wheels, '95 ABS master cyl., ADDCO bars, and Big Brake Upgrade!
Misc: '98+ Heated mirrors, 2-tone Gray interior, 98+ gauges, oil cooler-delete, and LX Sport console w/ floor shift!

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#1107978 - 01/19/07 06:02 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
1kftlbs Offline
n00b

Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 39
Loc: lakewood, ca
Quote:

on the cobra motor did all the major things fit, mounts, tranny, that kinda stuff? was the wiring slightly similar? I see that in ur sig it says fully built 4r70w, what kind of parts are in there?



I have answered most of these questions in my other two threads. Just look at them. The 4r70 has all 4r75 parts plus alto redline clutches, pa valve body, and a bunch of other crap that im not sure about. My buddy who owns a trans shop built it.
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2003 Crown Vic PI
-03 Cobra motor with marauder wiring harness and pcm
-Precision Industried 9.5" Converter(2800 stall)
-MJ Chip Modified FPDM
-8 bolt automatic Ford Racing flywheel
-Stainless Works Full Mercury Marauder Exhaust(Jet-Hot Coated)

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#1107979 - 01/19/07 08:48 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Paul26 Offline
Stranger

Registered: 01/18/07
Posts: 9
Here you go, i dont' see why this matters!

im planning on buying an 03+
I don't want a slow ass car is what i don't want, and it still has to be some what daily driver!
Budget is undecied yet and that isn't really relavent, i want to know what it would take to put this engine in this car, not how much money it would cost, that was stated in my first post!

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#1107980 - 01/19/07 08:49 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Paul26 Offline
Stranger

Registered: 01/18/07
Posts: 9
links to your other threads?

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#1107981 - 01/19/07 10:56 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
theredlineboss Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 1555
Loc: Taylor, MI
It matters because the installation process changes from year to year.
Pre-03's have a very restrictive frame design; exhaust manifold/header options are limited. If you want more oil capacity, you need to modify the pan or the crossmember.
'03+ has a returnless fuel system. Various engine compartment components were redesigned, to accomodate the DOHC engine (for the marauder).
'05+ utilizes a drive-by-wire setup.

The reason why I asked you questions is because many people come here, hoping that this is a cheap, plug and play task. It is best for you to right now this is NOT plug and play, and it will require a LOT of time and $$$$. And a lot of research, as this is an unbeaten path, for the most part.

Quote:

links to your other threads?






Rob
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1996 Police Interceptor-Glory days are over frown - old specs below **216K miles**; Daily driver now a stock '97 Vic **157K miles**
Engine: '03 4.6 w/ underdrives, shorties, custom downpipes, MZT, 70MM T/B, ADTR ported plenum, & Dyno Tuned.
Trans: Y2K 4r70w w/ J-mod, Spiral Lock clip, '04 Marauder TC, and an Econoline trans cooler.
Suspension/steering/brakes: '02 PI steering box, 17" 'stang wheels, '95 ABS master cyl., ADDCO bars, and Big Brake Upgrade!
Misc: '98+ Heated mirrors, 2-tone Gray interior, 98+ gauges, oil cooler-delete, and LX Sport console w/ floor shift!

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#1107982 - 02/10/07 05:55 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Ari Offline
Climber

Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 554
Loc: Manalapan, New Jersey
I'm looking to do basically the same, a 4.6 DOHC swap. However, I want to take it further and pull the supercharger in favor of a twin turbo setup. I wouldn't be using the car listed in my sig however.
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2003 P71. 422rwhp/471rwtq. 2004 4.6L Iron block, manley rods, diamond pistons, forged cobra crank, ARP everything. 2004 Cobra cylinder heads, custom KOOKS longtube headers, completely custom 3" exhaust with a bassani x and dumped mufflers, MMR high performance oil pump, lincoln navigator valve covers. Eaton supercharger from a 2004 cobra (for now). Lightning force performance 03/04 cobra undercooler, custom dual heat exchanger setup. Completely custom return style fuel system with a trunk mounted fuel cell. Built rear end with a Detroit truetrac and 3.73's.
Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#1107983 - 02/10/07 08:50 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Quickcrownvic Offline
Greaser
Over the Hill

Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 1106
Loc: SW Miami Dade
Cobra motors are to much trouble for what it gives you, if your going to stay with a 4.6, just build the motor your car came with.
These cars need massive low end torque from cubic inches, not a rev happy 4.6 cobra motor. In my opinion, for a Crown Vic, a motor swap is only worth it if going to a 5.4.
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#1107984 - 02/10/07 09:30 PM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Crown Nick Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 3244
Loc: Houston, TX
IMO, the engine swap is too much hassle. Better off beefing up a SOHC 4.6 and supercharging that MOFO!
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#1107985 - 02/11/07 04:17 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
Ari Offline
Climber

Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 554
Loc: Manalapan, New Jersey
What about these cobra twin turbo kits that put down 800+whp and 850+wtq? You can get a lot more air in and out of a 4v.
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2003 P71. 422rwhp/471rwtq. 2004 4.6L Iron block, manley rods, diamond pistons, forged cobra crank, ARP everything. 2004 Cobra cylinder heads, custom KOOKS longtube headers, completely custom 3" exhaust with a bassani x and dumped mufflers, MMR high performance oil pump, lincoln navigator valve covers. Eaton supercharger from a 2004 cobra (for now). Lightning force performance 03/04 cobra undercooler, custom dual heat exchanger setup. Completely custom return style fuel system with a trunk mounted fuel cell. Built rear end with a Detroit truetrac and 3.73's.
Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#1107986 - 02/11/07 06:49 AM Re: 4.6 cobra motor
panther service advisor Offline
Climber

Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 783
Loc: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
I agree with JohnE, buy a MM and install a Trilogy Supercharger kit. This set-up is proven (over 120 done) and enjoyable. A Trilogy enhanced MM is good for 12 sec 1/4 miles with just tires and a 4.10 gears. If anyone needs a panther quicker than 12 sec 1/4 miles, they need their head examined. When you have a 12 sec street car that doesn't have any tradeoff's, it is a wonderful thing. I have driven to many cars that ran great 1/4 miles, but made horrible everyday cars. My ideal street car is a car that could rack up 500 miles a day in comfort, if needed and then run 12 sec 1/4 miles at will. Again, take a look at Mercedes Benz'z AMG E55, E63, S55, and S65 sedans that all run 12 sec 1/4 mile times, that you could drive everyday.
Folk's, you need to be realistic when it comes to building a performance panther. Don't get me wrong, I like the individual ideas, but many times those ideas are hampered by budget and/or techanical resources.
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03 CV Sport (1 of 2,349) with Scan Gauge II, 21 mm rear sway bar, 02B02 fuel tank shield, MZT by B.O.C with 87 and 93 octane tune.
96 CV LX with every option including memory seat and air suspension, except HPP. mods:98+ front brakes, 98-02 CVPI wheels, CVPI front springs, anti-sway bars, 02B02 fuel tank shield, CVPI TC and flywheel and CVPI PCM. (sold)
99 Dodge Dakota R/T 5.9 Club Cab Red 1 of 1100 (sold)
2004 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer (4X2) (Weekend family hauler)(sold)
2010 Lincoln Navigator L (new weekend family hauler)
1989 Taurus SHO Hypertech chip and Big brake upgrade (sold)
1993 Taurus SHO Big brake upgrade (sold)

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