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#1189712 - 05/14/07 04:29 PM Front end squeak -- stumpped
vicvega Offline
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There is a front end squeak that progresses as the car rolls faster, like squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeaksqueaksqueaksqueaksqueaksqueaksqueak. You get the picture. I took off all tires. All pads and rotors are new i checked to make sure nothing was rubbing on the rotors. The weiredest part is that this noise comes and goes. It will do it for a while then it completely goes away. Then it returns unexpectedly. My dad thinks its a bearing or a U-joint. I don't know so that's why i'm here asking for help. Thanks in advanced.
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#1189717 - 05/14/07 04:44 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: vicvega]
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hmmm.... I have the exact same problem. My brake pads and rotors are pretty new (brake pads are non-oem metallic though). I had the bearings checked and they are fine, apparently the bearings emit a groan rather than a squeak when they go bad.
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#1189751 - 05/14/07 05:35 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: RedPanther]
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Bad bearings tend to "roar" or moan (not squeak). I doubt it's a bad bearing.

Is it a function of engine speed or forward motion of the car?
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#1189761 - 05/14/07 05:42 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: MDD]
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Youv'e got the new and improved [03] squeak. Swaybar end links maybe/hood latch might actually be it on this one? Try a little shot of wd 40 and see if it goes away.Try one at a time tolocate it.Don't sray too much cause it's not rubber/plastic friendly.
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#1190268 - 05/15/07 09:01 AM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: MDD]
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It is a function of forward motion of the car! IT starts around 20mph and as the car goes faster the squeak becomes more of a scrape and more continous. I removed all the wheels, looked at all the bushings, pulled on all the tie rods, sway bar and nothing is loose. I thought it might be somthing rubbing on the rotors but they are clear of anything. I thought it may be the pads but the noise is the same when I step on the brake or let go if it as well. Like I said, I'm stumpped
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#1190306 - 05/15/07 10:58 AM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: vicvega]
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I've had a bad U-Joint squeak before, while driving try coasting in neutral to take the load off the driveshaft and see if the squeak goes away or changes.
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#1190317 - 05/15/07 11:19 AM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: Metallic_Vic]
vicvega Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Metallic_Vic
I've had a bad U-Joint squeak before, while driving try coasting in neutral to take the load off the driveshaft and see if the squeak goes away or changes.


I will def try that! That's a great idea! Thanks and I hope this works. My dad thinks it's a u-joint. Well see!
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#1190330 - 05/15/07 11:48 AM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: vicvega]
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you could also try spraying some WD-40 on the u-joint and see if the squeaking stops, while this will not fix it, it will at least let you know where your problem is.
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#1190395 - 05/15/07 01:39 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: mblazakep]
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U joint, maybe a bad tire also.
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#1190433 - 05/15/07 02:44 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: Dan The Vic Man]
vicvega Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Dan The Vic Man
U joint, maybe a bad tire also.


Yeah I thought of this but the tires only have 1000 miles on them. I checked the rims for cracks as well. Will try the WD40 on the U-Joints as soon as I get out of work. If it is, that's not hard to fix!

Thanks again for all your comments and post, I will let you know what I find.

vic
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#1190457 - 05/15/07 03:45 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: vicvega]
Dan The Vic Man Offline
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New tires doesnt mean they arent bad. My dad had a bad tire once and it was brand new and tires plus couldnt figure out what was a matter with it, they did an allignemnt on it twice abd it turned out to be a bad tire that was brand new.
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#1190464 - 05/15/07 03:52 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: Dan The Vic Man]
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"Some 2003-2004 Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Town Car vehicles may exhibit a squeaking or rubbing noise from the front suspension. The noise may be coming from the upper spring insulators. The insulators can be easily inspected from above, without removing the spring/shock assembly from the vehicle. If necessary, replace with revised spring insulator. Refer to Section 204-01 of the Workshop Manual. If no wear is found follow normal diagnostics."

From Ford TSB 04-15-5, may or may not be heplful...

If needed, revised insluator part # is 5W1Z-5415-AA

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#1190618 - 05/15/07 07:27 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: 03CrownVicP71]
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UPDATE. I inspected the U joints and WD40'ed them. lol. Ran the car in Neutral and the squeak persisted. Well I went under the car once again and inspected it thoroughly. I found that there is tranny fluid moister I guess from the front seal anyways. I decided to put the car on jack stands on th side of the squeak the right side. Started with the rear. Placed the car on drive, accelerated slightly and behold, the mysterious squeak. Me thinks the rotors have to be resurfaced. The squeak only came from the rear right tire and only while driving forward not reverse. Any comments?
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#1190626 - 05/15/07 07:33 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: vicvega]
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You ran over a "Hood Rat". Anyone seen Ice T. around lately? LOL
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#1190631 - 05/15/07 07:37 PM Re: Front end squeak -- stumpped [Re: 03CrownVicP71]
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 Originally Posted By: 03CrownVicP71
"Some 2003-2004 Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Town Car vehicles may exhibit a squeaking or rubbing noise from the front suspension. The noise may be coming from the upper spring insulators. The insulators can be easily inspected from above, without removing the spring/shock assembly from the vehicle. If necessary, replace with revised spring insulator. Refer to Section 204-01 of the Workshop Manual. If no wear is found follow normal diagnostics."

From Ford TSB 04-15-5, may or may not be heplful...

If needed, revised insluator part # is 5W1Z-5415-AA



Hmmm, my sister's '98 MGM makes similiar noises, new rotors/bearings last July. I will have to look into it, and of course lubricate the bushings.
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