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#1222984 - 06/30/07 12:03 PM Huh?? I have air shocks?
DMF Offline
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Just acquired a pair of AA527 replacements for my '99 P71 that started bouncing like a pogo stick. I just got under it, and discovered that the old rear shocks have both lost their retainers and insulators.

Furthermore, each shock has an air fitting on the side of the dust tube. They are fat, white, and have a big number stamped on the side - 729767 - with no manufacturer. The little black nylon tubes connected to them were obviously routed by someone other than the factory, and seem to connect only between the shocks.

What are they?

Would it make sense to re-connect the existing shocks (I think they were okay before they disconnected) and return the new ones?

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#1223031 - 06/30/07 02:34 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: DMF]
Blue95 Offline
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Sound like someone installed air shocks on the back. IMO I would toss em and install the new replacement shocks. Air shocks are a poor way to carry loads on a vehicle, better to change out the rear springs and use "normal" shocks.

I got a little confused - you first said that the car was bouncing around, then you said that the rear shocks were probably OK? Anyway. my vote is for shock replacement.
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#1223032 - 06/30/07 02:36 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: Blue95]
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i like my air, but when they go im gonna put CVPI springs in its place.
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#1223055 - 06/30/07 03:19 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: Blue95]
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 Originally Posted By: Blue95
I got a little confused - you first said that the car was bouncing around, then you said that the rear shocks were probably OK?

Yeah, they were fine when they were connected to the car a both ends.

In hindsight, the one must have come loose a few months ago; the other a couple weeks ago. Surprising to me that only one shock did pretty well on its own. I thought one was blown - i.e. weak - but had no idea it was physically detached.


I still can't find anywhere the lines for these "air shocks" were attached other than to the shocks. Where would the air source be, under the hood?
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#1223063 - 06/30/07 03:26 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: DMF]
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dont that come from the trunk on the drivers side, and relays are in the front?
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#1223080 - 06/30/07 04:20 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: tackleberry]
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If they are aftermarket air shocks who knows where they installed the line. Back in the day that air shocks were cool I....I mean guys would run the fill hose to the someplace near the lic plate. The air lines just T to a air fitting and you add air like a tire...
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#1223139 - 06/30/07 06:28 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: JayP71]
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Exactly what JayP71 said. I remember those days .... and guilty of doing exactly that on my 62 Chevy!

Tackleberry I think that you are describing the RAS setup - from what I read, he has standard issue airshocks on the back, but they are not connected to anything.
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#1223154 - 06/30/07 07:00 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: DMF]
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Registered: 03/20/07
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 Originally Posted By: DMF
They are fat, white, and have a big number stamped on the side
I'm thinking the older Gabriel Air Shocks. You don't have an air compressor so toss 'em.

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#1223553 - 07/01/07 12:46 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: baravelli]
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Tackleberry - he is talking about air SHOCKS not air springs! He has metal springs.

DMF - if you are satisfied that you can reattach the shocks OK then try it and see how it goes. If all seems OK then return the new shocks.
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#1223935 - 07/02/07 12:23 AM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: Tony_the_Brit]
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Found the filler. Schrader valve on the frame bar behind the rear bumper. I wouldn't have enough insulators et al. after returning the new shocks, so I just pulled the whole system off and put the new ones on.

What a PITA! even without having to remove the old shocks. Lord knows what I would have had to do had there been frozen nuts on them. As it is I had to cut through the floor on one side because I couldn't get at the top nut to tighten it.

I've long admired Fords for the ease of maintenance, but this is ridiculous. What do Ford techs do when they have to change the rear shocks?
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#1224107 - 07/02/07 09:04 AM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: DMF]
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I used a hole saw and "installed" access holes right above the shocks on my 95 - life was good after that. Also used rubber plugs in the holes. I have always wondered why in the heck Ford did not do that.
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2002 HPP-SOLD
badgeless grille-tinted tails-Hrbacek whiteface gauges-Pioneer spkrs-12" sub-reworked tranny internals-Sonnax/jmod upgrades-ceramic pads-urethane swaybar bushings-new timing chains/guides/tensioners-Granatelli plenum-75mmTB-MZT-NGKTR6 plugs-180d thermo-Steeda UD's-BOC 93tune-Thrush mufflers-LED interior/door puddle lights-Projector HID retrofit-MM corners-LED signal mirrors-17x8 TorqThrust wheels-235/55/17 Contental ExtremeContact DWS tires
2003 LX Sport-SOLD Hrbacek whiteface gauges-Pioneer spkrs-12"sub-reworked tranny internals-Sonnax/jmod upgrades-urethane swaybar bushings-Thrush mufflers-ceramic pads-Steeda UDs-LED interior/trunk/door lights-rebuilt 3.27 axle
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#1224382 - 07/02/07 04:27 PM Re: Huh?? I have air shocks? [Re: Blue95]
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 Originally Posted By: Blue95
I used a hole saw and "installed" access holes right above the shocks on my 95 - life was good after that. Also used rubber plugs in the holes. I have always wondered why in the heck Ford did not do that.


When I was in a Jeep club we used to do lifts for people that didn't really know much about them or how to install them. the rear shocks on cherokee's were a PITA...until we started drilling access holes..
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