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#1402229 - 02/20/08 06:48 AM Powertrain malfunction indicator
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My 06 CVPI has 12xxx miles on it. Today when I got to work, my car "jerked" (sort of like a hard shift) and then the wrench (Powertrain malfunction indicator) came on. How do I read this? Do I need to go to the dealership? I have noticed some abnormal drive in the car lately, like hard shifts, etc.


Thanks for the help.
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#1402375 - 02/20/08 11:04 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
gord_bolton Offline
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You need to hook up a code reader to read the code. The code will help lead you to the problem and solution.

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#1402385 - 02/20/08 11:23 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
Big_Bad_Joe Offline
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 Originally Posted By: firefighter69
My 06 CVPI has 12xxx miles on it. Today when I got to work, my car "jerked" (sort of like a hard shift) and then the wrench (Powertrain malfunction indicator) came on. How do I read this? Do I need to go to the dealership? I have noticed some abnormal drive in the care lately, like hard shifts, etc.


Thanks for the help.



Hey just happened to my 2006 last night WTF must be the lunar eclipse... I am going to pull my codes later today I hope....

I will let you know... might have to scan it at the dealer...
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#1402425 - 02/20/08 12:27 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: gord_bolton]
GhostRider Offline

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 Originally Posted By: gord_bolton
You need to hook up a code reader to read the code. The code will help lead you to the problem and solution.
Can I use an OBD-II reader for this? Remember, this isnt a CEL.
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#1402626 - 02/20/08 05:11 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
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Why bother? It's under warranty, let the dealership mess with it.
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#1402811 - 02/20/08 08:14 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: Dirt820]
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 Originally Posted By: Darold
Why bother? It's under warranty, let the dealership mess with it.
I know its under warranty, but I would like to know for my own general knowledge.
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#1403189 - 02/21/08 09:05 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
Big_Bad_Joe Offline
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 Originally Posted By: firefighter69
 Originally Posted By: Darold
Why bother? It's under warranty, let the dealership mess with it.
I know its under warranty, but I would like to know for my own general knowledge.


ditto.. knowing the code makes it easier to tell the occasional dealer service writer who just wnats you off the premises that there is indeed a warranty issue and that something is actually wrong.. just be sure you do NOT clear codes before going to the dealer! .. in my case I take it to a good friend and client so I do not get that.. but .... still I would prefer to know...

I forgot the new "CAN" language! Crap have to get a new reader
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2000 HPP RESURECTION RIP 8/17/2012 died in Dayton OH

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#1403273 - 02/21/08 10:36 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: Big_Bad_Joe]
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You probably have an issue with the electronic throttle control system
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#1404406 - 02/22/08 02:49 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: dRock96Marquis]
Big_Bad_Joe Offline
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i am thinking that also

but i am pulling the codes tonight.. got a new Actron that does all sorts of stuff and data logging too... reads the CAN system... hoping to pull a useful code up.. will let you know.. its been so damn cold
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Underdrives from ADTR.net
Pioneer AVIC X930BT Nav system, JL xD400/4amp, JL Speakers, Audiovox backup camera

2000 HPP RESURECTION RIP 8/17/2012 died in Dayton OH

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#1404662 - 02/22/08 08:07 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: Big_Bad_Joe]
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Will an OBD-2 reader read this code even though its not a CEL?
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2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
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#1404937 - 02/23/08 09:44 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
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Loc: Rochester NY
 Originally Posted By: firefighter69
Will an OBD-2 reader read this code even though its not a CEL?


I bought the new Actron CB? (forgot to write it down) model and it reads a ton of stuff. Has a USB interface and software to use the laptop as well.. it does live data logging etc

it displayed the following "pending" codes.... not CEl codes...

P061B Internal Control Mod torque Calculation Perform

P2106 Throttle Accuator Control System forced limited power

that was all that was in there.. everything else was ok from what limited time i had to browse....

car has not done it since the other night so I will contact the dealer and make an appointment to go over it...

DROCK96 WINS AGAIN!

either a good guess or he has something up his sleeve?
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Pioneer AVIC X930BT Nav system, JL xD400/4amp, JL Speakers, Audiovox backup camera

2000 HPP RESURECTION RIP 8/17/2012 died in Dayton OH

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#1417068 - 03/07/08 04:08 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: Big_Bad_Joe]
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Ok the light came back on today on my way home from work. When I got home, I didnt shut the engine off so the light would remain so I can grab my Actron CP9135 OBD-II reader. It read the following codes:

P2106 - Throttle Accuator Control (TAC) System forced limited power

P061B - Computer & Auxiliary Out


What do these codes mean?
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1997 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (12-23-02 to 11-21-07)
2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
2013 Ford Taurus Limited (8-31-13 to Present)

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#1417178 - 03/07/08 07:08 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
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#1417243 - 03/07/08 08:55 PM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: bigred161]
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Thanks Big Red! I will take this info to the dealership for review
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2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
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#1419928 - 03/11/08 01:47 AM Re: Powertrain malfunction indicator [Re: GhostRider]
dRock96Marquis Offline

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 Originally Posted By: firefighter69
Ok the light came back on today on my way home from work. When I got home, I didnt shut the engine off so the light would remain so I can grab my Actron CP9135 OBD-II reader. It read the following codes:

P2106 - Throttle Accuator Control (TAC) System forced limited power

P061B - Computer & Auxiliary Out


What do these codes mean?

It means it's your electronic throttle control system acting up.
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