#1687255 - 02/11/09 04:12 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: denmah]
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denmah
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let me explain, this is not my car, nor did i do the work on this car. my friend that owns a shop built the turbo kit for this car, for a customer. i love taking pics of his interesting projects and putting them on the internet for other people to see...
it has a 60mm turbo with a .82 exhaust (a little big, but its getting swapped out with a .68)
it has precision 42lb injectors and a marauder mafs, but that is topped out easily by the turbo. they are going to use a mafia extender to get more power out of the mass air meter.
it is totally stock motor throttle body to oilpan, 140k miles 2v.
the trans is the same way.
tuning is with SCT xcal.
they plan to put a pump in it also, and shoot for more power.
on 6psi it easily pegged the mafs and made 320rwhp
the car made 206rwhp stock so it gained roughly 19hp per psi, pretty good for a turbo thats a bit too large.
more updates on it as they get more done, i will get some in car video also.
i dont know your rules on advertising so i will not post the name of the shop or try to dress this up like an advertisement, its not meant to be.
but if you are intrested in asking about it, i would say a PM is the best way, if thats ok with the site owners/admins.
thanks guys! enjoy!
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#1687263 - 02/11/09 04:22 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: denmah]
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1_Man_Army
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Amazing!! How much was the Total cost of this project?
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#1687266 - 02/11/09 04:26 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: 1_Man_Army]
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denmah
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im not sure yet, as they are still working out some things.
he wanted to try it out on the cheap initially and see how he liked it, at least thats what i perceived. but you need a decent mass air meter and injectors right away, and pretty much a pump at this point because the turbo actually makes alot more power than we had thought.
i can see when its done, they should be putting on the other exhaust housing and doing another tune later this week, i can update you guys and see if frank can give me a ballpark price for completed kit.
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#1687269 - 02/11/09 04:29 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: denmah]
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denmah
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oh yes, and there are all 4 cats (2 on each side) still intact
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#1687358 - 02/11/09 06:06 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: CodenameVIC]
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04RauderDTR
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are there vids of this car on youtube or something... seems fimalar.
Edit: doh, thats the vid i saw...
BTW, NJ, nice 
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#1687366 - 02/11/09 06:15 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
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denmah
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yes, new jersey owned
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#1687375 - 02/11/09 06:30 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: denmah]
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1_Man_Army
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I like how the Turbo is concealed in the one pic. I would only reroute the BOV back into the exhaust pipe.
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#1687608 - 02/11/09 10:15 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: 1_Man_Army]
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panther service advisor
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This is an excellent alternative, because a well tuned turbo system is this best power adder. Is this a STS Turbo kit or is it his own design? If he gets this kit dialed in, easily reproduced it and support it. It would be a nice addition to our options when it comes to force induction. I only see a couple of things that I would change and add to this set up.
1. Heat shield for the floor pan.
2. Install a shroud connecting the front bumper to the lower radiator support to direct more air into the intercooler and radiator.
3. Use steel braided lines on the oil supply lines for the turbo.
4. Have the blow off valve vent back into the exhaust.
5. Add an Accusump to guard against low oil pressure to protect the turbo.
But I must say, well down and please have your friend continue the good work. Please keep us posted.
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#1687625 - 02/11/09 10:25 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: panther service advisor]
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1_Man_Army
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PSA You are a very picky individual! Just kidding. I guess i would change those things as well, but the rerouting would be first. Blowing off into the atmosphere sounds like crap.
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#1687657 - 02/11/09 10:47 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: 1_Man_Army]
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panther service advisor
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I have always been picky, I use to drive my technicians crazy. But, later on they all thanked me because we all shared in bonus checks when we didn't have come-backs. This turbo kit shows great promise, they just need to send me one for hot weather testing.
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#1687676 - 02/11/09 11:00 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: Dan The Vic Man]
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1_Man_Army
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You could y pipe the single back into a dual exhaust if you wanted. I would probably add some resonators as well.
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#1687681 - 02/11/09 11:03 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: 1_Man_Army]
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Dan The Vic Man
I broke it
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You could y pipe the single back into a dual exhaust if you wanted. I would probably add some resonators as well.
I would love to have a rear mount turbo and am pretty much stock with that option only because im not getting rid of my custom long tubes i just had made.
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#1687951 - 02/12/09 09:26 AM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: Dan The Vic Man]
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AM_Dann
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Hey man, just sayin hi! Didn't know you were on here. This is 240sxdann from TST. I said it before, I'll say it again, awesome project.
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#1688124 - 02/12/09 12:54 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: AM_Dann]
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BlownMerc
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Does look nice. For dual exhaust, you could run twin turbos Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but a BOV is on the intake side, to vent boost on closed throttle back to the intake side of the compressor. A waste gate is on the exhaust side. But I do agree, I would want it routed to the exhaust outlet. But I guess the fabrication would be a little more involved.
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#1688155 - 02/12/09 01:36 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: BlownMerc]
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bjorkmae
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Having actually installed turbos the blow off valve is designed for the extra air pumped into the charge pipes because the turbo has built up boost and the throttle had closed. The blow off valve vents the extra pressurized air to atmosphere so its easier on the turbo bearings and so that the turbo doesn't get slowed down as much by the pressurized air. That way it spins up more quickly when the gas pedal is pressed for the next gear. Venting the blow off valve to the exhaust is CRAZY. Now as far as sound I prefer venting the blow off valve to atmosphere directly and not into the intake tube. Also if you have a big enough turbo, venting the blow off valve into the intake tube before the turbo can cause tuning problems because it can actually blow air back out of the intake filter fooling the MAF and causing driveability problems. Been there done that. Waste gates bleed off extra exhaust gases so that the turbo doesn't produce too much boost, adjusting at what PSI the waste gate opens is how do set the boost that the turbo will produce. Venting the waste gate to atmosphere sounds like ass and I prefer that to be blown back into the exhaust after the turbo. Also an FYI a blow off valve is the name for valves that blow extra compressed air from the turbo to atmosphere and not into the intake tube before the turbo. A bypass valve is the same as a blow off valve except it blows the air back into the intake tube before the turbo.
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#1688165 - 02/12/09 01:47 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: bjorkmae]
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JeffBoudah
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Also if you have a big enough turbo, venting the blow off valve into the intake tube before the turbo can cause tuning problems because it can actually blow air back out of the intake filter fooling the MAF and causing driveability problems. Been there done that.
were you be running a BOV with a draw threw MAF? the compressed air being released to the atmosphere has been meetered already, no wonder you had tuning issues.
BOV before a blow-threw MAF... is the correct way to run a turbo setup.
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#1688219 - 02/12/09 03:02 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: JeffBoudah]
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1_Man_Army
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Yea, that what i meant, the waste gate. not the blow off valve. sorry for the confusion
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#1688247 - 02/12/09 03:35 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: 1_Man_Army]
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interceptor09
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Sweet car, saw the video on youtube a couple weeks ago.
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#1688317 - 02/12/09 05:00 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: interceptor09]
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P71CVMAN
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FWIW: I ran my TA-49 turbo without a BOV for 4 years on my old GN without any problems. Almost all of the GN guys don't run a BOV(at least when I last owned my car). The sounds of the turbo "sneezing" back into the atmosphere through the MAF/cone filter would scare everyone.
This is definatly a cool project! Reminds me of the LS1/LS2 guys I see around here with rear mounted turbos. 
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#1688417 - 02/12/09 07:06 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: JeffBoudah]
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bjorkmae
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Also if you have a big enough turbo, venting the blow off valve into the intake tube before the turbo can cause tuning problems because it can actually blow air back out of the intake filter fooling the MAF and causing driveability problems. Been there done that. were you be running a BOV with a draw threw MAF? the compressed air being released to the atmosphere has been meetered already, no wonder you had tuning issues. BOV before a blow-threw MAF... is the correct way to run a turbo setup.
No I am not that dumb, I have done too many boosted projects to screw up that badly  If you read my posts you would understand what the problem was, but there are too many of them to expect that kind of home work. OK so originally I ran the by pass valve just like the vortech setup up was intended on the mustang. THe intake stream went this way: Cone filter, MAF, bypass valve return, breather tube, supercharger, charge pipe, by pass valve exit, idle control motor, then throttle body. The way I had it set up originally the MAF did measure all of the air going into the engine and the by pass return occurred between the MAF and the supercharger input. This is exactly how the vortech was intended on the mustang. Unfortunately what happens is that the extra air produced by the supercharger that is released when you let off the gas is let off through the by pass valve and if there is too much air it will actually blow dirt off of the cone filter. Of course in the process the air excess air blows past the MAF. This is enough of an issue that there is actually adjustments in the pro racer software specifically made to remedy that by using the failed maf table when this occurs. Now the way I have the intake system is in this order: cone filter, breather tube, supercharger, charger tube, by pass valve exit, MAF, idle control motor, throttle body. That way any extra compressed air gets vented to atmosphere and can't blow backwards across the MAF. Doing it this way avoids having to reference the failed maf table during blow off and this of course makes the programming much easier and makes the datalogging easier to interpret since there aren't crazy MAF readings when you let off the gas.
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#1696537 - 02/23/09 10:37 AM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
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STPchild
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Did he run that # on the stock injectors, or with 42's? I am confused.
Also tell your bud, great car. Comming from the mustang world, and now with the Vic. I already have the itch, and this is right up my alley. So tired of the normal, Vortech, Paxton, Kenne Bell, Whipple crowd.
Had alot of ecxperience building my mustang, so I dont think this would be such a big deal. LOW BUCK STYLE
Did pete build and tune the kit? I have a few questions before I start mine...
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#1696548 - 02/23/09 10:47 AM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: STPchild]
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JeffBoudah
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So tired of the normal, Vortech, Paxton, Kenne Bell, Whipple crowd.
Well you're in luck... cuz we have none of those around here. lol
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#1696659 - 02/23/09 01:06 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: Big_Bad_Joe]
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Dan The Vic Man
I broke it
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Hey Dan
Your car is pretty nice right now all NA and you have done a nice job on the overall package you have...
I would go with an S/C like Drock (or a radical procharger if you wanted to get stupid on us...)... Drock's set up would look very nice under the hood and scoot to boot...
I just think that would be a very nice DD with a ton of guts.... lots of low end...
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#1696719 - 02/23/09 02:09 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: JeffBoudah]
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bjorkmae
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So tired of the normal, Vortech, Paxton, Kenne Bell, Whipple crowd.
Well you're in luck... cuz we have none of those around here. lol
We don't?? Where have you been? Drock's car is a roots style like those mentioned above and mine is a vortech.
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#1696735 - 02/23/09 02:26 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: bjorkmae]
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JeffBoudah
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So tired of the normal, Vortech, Paxton, Kenne Bell, Whipple crowd.
Well you're in luck... cuz we have none of those around here. lol We don't?? Where have you been? Drock's car is a roots style like those mentioned above and mine is a vortech.
I was being facetious... 
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#1696757 - 02/23/09 02:46 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
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bjorkmae
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Yeah I wondered. Seamed kinda odd for you.
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#1697048 - 02/23/09 08:15 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: bjorkmae]
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MrEvil
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Very nice results on that turbo. I've been skeptical about plumbing a turbo that far towards the rear, but it appears that that doesn't cause any problems. Also interesting to see that the cats have little effect on the turbo's performance.
I'd like some turbocharged goodness on my car, but I would like to try a custom shorty header setup with the turbo tucked up in the corner of the engine bay. At least in a bit easier to access spot than on my F250.
I'm not crazy about the BOV sneezing either, makes me glad my F250's Diesel doesn't need one.
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#1697115 - 02/23/09 09:42 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
[Re: MrEvil]
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P71Hype
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i was think about the turbo thing then i got a price 6-7k so i cried in the car
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#1697171 - 02/23/09 10:40 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
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Dan The Vic Man
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i was think about the turbo thing then i got a price 6-7k so i cried in the car
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#1697320 - 02/24/09 03:44 AM
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P71Hype
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i was think about the turbo thing then i got a price 6-7k so i cried in the car Where was the quote from? Was it from the place that did the rear mount on the vic above?
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#1697733 - 02/24/09 06:09 PM
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9psicvpi
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there is no way you should fork out 6-7K ona 1999 car for a mild turbo
I mean thats a nice install.. don't get me wrong.. but that would kind of silly to me... non-intercooled and mounted the way it is... half that price would be fair.. out of pocket with some modest skills you should be able to do it for 2-3K depending on how much you score the hair dryer for
yea dude thats a bit much slickvic03 did his 4 about 3k and his had n intercooler
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#1697850 - 02/24/09 08:14 PM
Re: Turbo Interceptor project
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P71Hype
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there is no way you should fork out 6-7K ona 1999 car for a mild turbo
I mean thats a nice install.. don't get me wrong.. but that would kind of silly to me... non-intercooled and mounted the way it is... half that price would be fair.. out of pocket with some modest skills you should be able to do it for 2-3K depending on how much you score the hair dryer for
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#1741811 - 04/12/09 09:33 PM
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FrankBehill
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Thanks for posting. Where are they getting the oil pressure off the block? What kind of pump is used to pump it back to the motor from the turbo? Ive got the yellow turbo 454 Nova over on TTF, Im here in PA too. Thanks for any info you have on oiling.
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#1742316 - 04/13/09 04:02 PM
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humphrey
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theres a guy in n.c. selling front mount 70mm turbo kits for 2003 up crowns
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#1742325 - 04/13/09 04:18 PM
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JeffBoudah
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Reference?
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#1742440 - 04/13/09 07:23 PM
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humphrey
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complete bolt on kit i thank its around 5k i've heard its a bad a$$ kit 70mm turbo,50mm wastgate,31x12x3 intercooler 3" intercooler piping
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#1742479 - 04/13/09 08:08 PM
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FrankBehill
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You could build your own rear mount for under $2k probably but there is quite a bit of work involved probably. A turbo would be $600, wastegate $300, hotside and coldside tubing around $300, wideband gauge $250, oil lines around $300 and who knows for a return pump, Im not sure what would be used for this. You wouldnt need a blow off valve for the pressure you could run on stock rods and pistons. Better injectors and fuel pump would add to the cost but maybe the stock stuff could keep up for low pressure like 5 psi?
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#1742575 - 04/13/09 09:42 PM
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humphrey
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You can run up to 10 psi on a stock bottom end and rear mounts are for people that wont a little over stock (not saying they dont make power)with this kit u can run low pressure then build ur motor and have a fast car.
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#1742604 - 04/13/09 10:08 PM
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P71Hype
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I just want a turbo granny wagon and to shock the hell out
of hondas
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#1742616 - 04/13/09 10:23 PM
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FrankBehill
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You can run up to 10 psi on a stock bottom end and rear mounts are for people that wont a little over stock (not saying they dont make power)with this kit u can run low pressure then build ur motor and have a fast car.
You could build a front mount for around $2k as well with a turbo that will make 1000hp. I just did it on a big block Chevy including blow through carb and hat. The money gets big when you build your shortblock and fuel system.
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#1743091 - 04/14/09 12:49 PM
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JeffBoudah
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You can run up to 10 psi on a stock bottom end and rear mounts are for people that wont a little over stock (not saying they dont make power)with this kit u can run low pressure then build ur motor and have a fast car.
ha, whatever  
There is a slight loss in efficiency due to the lower EGT and a little loss of exhaust velocity. But you solve this problem by using a smaller exhaust housing A/R than you would a front mount.
Please explain how a boost level achieved with a remote mount is going to produce significantly less power than a similar sized turbo producing the same boost level under the hood? Besides a minuscule amount of extra lag, what's the difference?
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#1743197 - 04/14/09 03:02 PM
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Robb4248
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Someone said it earlier... boost is boost. And this is very true. Regardless, this setup will have a bit of lag, but you're not loosing that much power, yes, it takes a bit more to travel, and just like electrical work, after a certain distance, there will be a slight loss, all depending on the distance that the boost travels.
Think of it this way, we have two garrett t04's:
46mm compressor wheel, producing 564cfm at full spool
60mm compressor wheel, producing 650cfm at full spool
Now the 60mm compressor wheel is producing more flow, reducing lag and power loss. The faster air flows, the less lag will be produced. So we're having to push air, let's say... through roughly 8 feet of housing, which will do it faster? The larger turbo. From what I understand, the lag is not that noticeable.
Since this setup eliminates an intercooler, the air doesn't get denser, thus requires a lower PSI to actually run the system. Another awesome perk: less bends = less PSI required. This all depends on how it's setup again, however, theoretically it will require less boost to be generated than a conventional under-the-hood setup.
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#1743200 - 04/14/09 03:10 PM
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FrankBehill
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ANY turbo setup is good, doesnt matter how ugly or where its mounted. I built the ugliest turbo kit on the planet, but 15psi on a 454 it really scoots, doesnt matter what it looks like
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#1743213 - 04/14/09 03:34 PM
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1_Man_Army
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I bet there was next to no lag in that setup. I'd like to do that to a 5.4L
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#1747588 - 04/19/09 02:19 PM
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Black_Cat
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I am sereously thinking about doing something similair. I have a Holset WH2D from a previous project and was wondering if anyone could tell me if this was to big for a 281C.I. mod motor
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