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#1916990 - 11/22/09 11:56 AM Snapped dip stick .
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	Friend has a 2005 CV PI The issues mentioned here were from the previous owner For some unknown reason his oil dipstick was smashed into the dipstick. The "O" pull was broken clean off and nothing remained above the tube to pull or twist. The rest of the dipstick was smashed into the tube so much so after it's "removal" we were unable to even push it back out w/o bendind the dipstick. Here's where "we" stand now. We tried all kinds of PB blast where the dipstick meets the block to remove it as he has a brand new one from the dealer. There is all of a 1/6th of an inch exposed. So grabbing it and twisting it aint gonna happen. The motor mount position prevents a tap from being run in to it. We also tried a propane torch on it to heat it and let it cool, Then we bent steel coat hangers and tried to pull it out from the inside. We tried heating the area around the dipstick and pulling then as well. So here are the questions . Anymore ideas on how to remove it ? If it comes down to it, What's it gonna be like to drop the oil pan on a 2005 ? Will we have to undo the front two motor mounts and jack the engine up some to get the pan out ? He's got a large screw that fit snugly into the hole with some JB weld puddy around it as a seal. He wants to go his 7K on his oil change so we have some time to come up with good ideas. _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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#1916996 - 11/22/09 12:11 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
adirondackP71 adirondackP71 Rookie Registered: 09/27/09 Posts: 94 Loc: NY	Is there enough room to get a pin punch down there to collapse the tube away from the block a little? That may loosen it enough to grab the opened up area with some needle nose vise grips. Put your coat hanger down there as a safety catch so the remains don't fall into pan if it collapses too easy!!! _________________________ Just Another White 2003 CV Former Manatee County, Florida Sheriff. Car #430 ADTR Ported Plenum,Aviator TB,Heinous Rear Arms Blinker Mod,Headlight Wiring Mod Salt Free Since '03
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#1916997 - 11/22/09 12:12 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
Colt45 Colt45 less is more© Poobah Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 5285 Loc: Moses Lake, Wa	Factory procedure for doing the oil pan calls for dropping the front suspension cross member. _________________________ -Colton No longer Pant(her)-less© 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX <- link dead due to script kiddie. Will rebuild in time..
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#1917004 - 11/22/09 12:23 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: adirondackP71]
larryo340 larryo340 Poobah Registered: 11/10/08 Posts: 7045 Loc: Long Island	Originally Posted By: adirondackP71 Is there enough room to get a pin punch down there to collapse the tube away from the block a little? That may loosen it enough to grab the opened up area with some needle nose vise grips. Put your coat hanger down there as a safety catch so the remains don't fall into pan if it collapses too easy!!! ^^^^ I would agree without seeing it myself. That sounds like it could work, and hopefully it does $\:\)$ _________________________ HPP wheels and Yokohama Advan S4's for summer/Steelies and Winterforce for winter/F&R drilled and slotted rotors/added OEM dual exhaust/OEM Marauder tips/ OEM Marauder spoiler/'03+ rear lights/'06+ rear trunk panel/Color matched belt moulding/LED CHMSL/'03+ headrests custom redone to match my seats/50% tint/ '02 OEM head unit/Alpine speakers 6X9 rear,5X7 front/Alpine V-power 4 channel amp/Sirius powered sub/Sirius Sportster 4 w/inside windshield mounted antenna/Silverstar Ultras/OEM Daytime Running Light module/Self installed heated mirrors/'03+ ashtray w/powerpoint/Self installed Ford remote start w/keyless entry/Scott Hrbacek custom White Face gauges with SMD LED lighting/PlasticDip black painted grill/Tossed open rear w/2.73's and put in rebuilt trac-loc w/3.27's
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#1917008 - 11/22/09 12:34 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: larryo340]
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	Screw you Colt $\:D$ Factory schmactory $\:\)$ We're innovators here.. But I know you looked for the correct year and are most likely right. I don't own at this time anything small enough to get in there but I will peruse that as an option. Should I heat up that "hip" area around the tube/block joint to open it up some or will I risk that heat weakening it and the punch pushing it out and cracking that ? _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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#1917026 - 11/22/09 12:53 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
larryo340 larryo340 Poobah Registered: 11/10/08 Posts: 7045 Loc: Long Island	I think the thin gauge dipstick tube would heat up quicker than the cast iron blok will, but that could work for or against you. If it's hot the metal of the tube will be softer to bend, but will it expand and tighten up in the block ?? that I'm not sure. When in doubt....heat the crap out of it _________________________ HPP wheels and Yokohama Advan S4's for summer/Steelies and Winterforce for winter/F&R drilled and slotted rotors/added OEM dual exhaust/OEM Marauder tips/ OEM Marauder spoiler/'03+ rear lights/'06+ rear trunk panel/Color matched belt moulding/LED CHMSL/'03+ headrests custom redone to match my seats/50% tint/ '02 OEM head unit/Alpine speakers 6X9 rear,5X7 front/Alpine V-power 4 channel amp/Sirius powered sub/Sirius Sportster 4 w/inside windshield mounted antenna/Silverstar Ultras/OEM Daytime Running Light module/Self installed heated mirrors/'03+ ashtray w/powerpoint/Self installed Ford remote start w/keyless entry/Scott Hrbacek custom White Face gauges with SMD LED lighting/PlasticDip black painted grill/Tossed open rear w/2.73's and put in rebuilt trac-loc w/3.27's
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#1917030 - 11/22/09 01:00 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: larryo340]
Colt45 Colt45 less is more© Poobah Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 5285 Loc: Moses Lake, Wa	Try CRC Freeze off. That might make it contract instead of expanding. I just looked up for my 2004 but no difference with a 2005 in that area. _________________________ -Colton No longer Pant(her)-less© 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX <- link dead due to script kiddie. Will rebuild in time..
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#1917072 - 11/22/09 01:43 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: Colt45]
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	Freeze off.. Contracting.. Good idea. I should just start a group PM of the 3 of us and save time $\:D$ _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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#1917308 - 11/22/09 07:20 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
billccm billccm Rookie Registered: 04/02/03 Posts: 61 Loc: Tucson	This is probably not the answer you are looking for, but I had this issue on an old Chrysler 2.2l four cylinder. I ended up knocking the leftover dipstick tube piece into the pan, and replacing the dipstick tube. I'm not sure if the dipstick piece every came out of the pan with any oil chnages, but I had no issues for another 60K miles and traded the car off. Let us know who you make out. Take care, Bill Edited by billccm (11/22/09 07:21 PM) _________________________ 1991 LeBaron Convertible 2009 Grand Marquis
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#1917340 - 11/22/09 08:26 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: billccm]
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	I fear a blocked pick up screen, and subsequent drop in oil pressure. _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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#1917439 - 11/22/09 10:23 PM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
1997GrandMarquis 1997GrandMarquis Member Registered: 04/09/09 Posts: 147 Loc: New Baltimore, MI	Not sure what kind of room you have down there Rizzo but I've had good luck on a few cars this way. Getting a big enough machine screw and screwing it inside the tube then taking either a little slide hammer or a pair of vise grips and twisting and pulling it up. Hope that helps _________________________ Justin New Baltimore, MI 1997 Grand Marquis - 4.6L, 124,000 miles, 3.27 gears, Very clean, DDM HID's (4500K), 20% Tint all the way around, Air Lift 1000 Kit, More to come...
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#1917538 - 11/23/09 12:27 AM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
larryo340 larryo340 Poobah Registered: 11/10/08 Posts: 7045 Loc: Long Island	Originally Posted By: AKA_Rizzo I fear a blocked pick up screen, and subsequent drop in oil pressure. I can't see a piece that big making past the oil screen in the pick up, but I wouldn't want it down in the oil pan either way. On a side note, when I had the valve seals replaced on my last GM a '92 the tech dropped half a valve keeper down the oil return which leads right into the oil pan. That was at 120K last I heard the car has around 300K. _________________________ HPP wheels and Yokohama Advan S4's for summer/Steelies and Winterforce for winter/F&R drilled and slotted rotors/added OEM dual exhaust/OEM Marauder tips/ OEM Marauder spoiler/'03+ rear lights/'06+ rear trunk panel/Color matched belt moulding/LED CHMSL/'03+ headrests custom redone to match my seats/50% tint/ '02 OEM head unit/Alpine speakers 6X9 rear,5X7 front/Alpine V-power 4 channel amp/Sirius powered sub/Sirius Sportster 4 w/inside windshield mounted antenna/Silverstar Ultras/OEM Daytime Running Light module/Self installed heated mirrors/'03+ ashtray w/powerpoint/Self installed Ford remote start w/keyless entry/Scott Hrbacek custom White Face gauges with SMD LED lighting/PlasticDip black painted grill/Tossed open rear w/2.73's and put in rebuilt trac-loc w/3.27's
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#1917561 - 11/23/09 12:56 AM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: larryo340]
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	Well although I think it may be ok to leave it down in there, I'll leave that up to the owner.. Kinda like signing a waiver $\:D$ ... HE did it .. NOT ME $\:D$ _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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#1917581 - 11/23/09 01:36 AM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: AKA_Rizzo]
Mange Mange Member Registered: 09/04/09 Posts: 179 Loc: Ypsilanti, MI	Between me and Cris's cars, coupled with our mechanical knowledge, were like Rizzos handicapped adopted sons...you know..the ones under the stairs! Good hangin again Brother! _________________________ Kooks Long tubes-full 2.5 exhaust, no cats to flow 40's to Megs Marauder Tips--J-MOD, blinker mod by Rizzo--BOC Tune to 93--Upgraded fuel pump--373's In and killin!--Kickin Stereo--shelby gt500 wheels-
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#1917587 - 11/23/09 01:40 AM Re: Snapped dip stick . [Re: Mange]
AKA_Rizzo AKA_Rizzo Posting Addict Registered: 03/06/04 Posts: 21652 Loc: Romulus,MI	Good hanging again brother ooppss.. _________________________ J-mods completed : 9 Jmodded 2002 P71. Headlight relay upgrade by BH1976 . Super 44's w/ turn downs,Welded by Interceptor09 What I did during my summer vacation. Signature by Ventana 13mm Socket Travel Photos
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