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#1987851 - 02/25/10 10:40 AM 5 spd swap issues
2003SikVicP71 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
so ive pretty much gathered a good amount of the parts needed for this swap . Im leaning towards using a tr 3650 but in Drocks BOK post it says the the tr 3650 has the trans mounts in a dif location to where as the 99-04 t-45 has the same trans mounts as the 4r70w. Would it be easyier to use the t-45, and is there anyone one that can make me a peddal assembly if i ship them to the parts and pay them as i dont have the tools to do it
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#1988181 - 02/25/10 07:09 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2003SikVicP71]
2003SikVicP71 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
anybody ?
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#1988293 - 02/25/10 09:15 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2003SikVicP71]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
Grand Poobah

Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 12107
Loc: Quebec Canada
The problem with the trans mount is not the transmission but rather the shape of the crossmember found in any 03+ crown vic.


I did my swap with a stock tremec tr3650 and then after I blew a third gear syncro I got a beffy up tr3650 to support my up comming mod.
I would highly suggest you to get the beffy-up tr 3650 right away to safe yourself so futur problem.
Theses cars are heavy and need something solid.

I will have my own pedal assembly for sale soon.

I bought another one to make some modification on my set-up.
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#1988295 - 02/25/10 09:16 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2003SikVicP71]
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Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 198
Loc: ATL, GA
Your gonna get the same replies I did... Not enough people have done the swap to really know, so were just gonna have to wing it.

I don't think the T3650 mounts in the same place as the T45. To answer the question you asked on MCE, the pedal assembly I got with my swap was custom built. I'm not sure who built it, but I purchased the Swap kit off of "lugnut" he's basically and inactive user because he sold his vic, but he will probably answer PMs sent to him.

If you want we can meet up and you can check out the pedal assembly and take some pics if you want.
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#1988309 - 02/25/10 09:29 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: Grandpacruiser]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
Grand Poobah

Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 12107
Loc: Quebec Canada
Personaly I would stay away from the t45 it just a weak transmission in stock form.
It will do the job for a daily driver but if you are planning to race the car or do major upgrade to the engine go with something else.
Funkrider did the swap with a t45 23 years ago but sold the car after a bit more than a year if I remember well.
So he cant really say how long the transmission lasted.
he has also it's own write -up in the bok just above mine.
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#1988317 - 02/25/10 09:34 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2004_p71]
Georges93LX Offline

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Registered: 10/07/03
Posts: 1887
Loc: Owensboro, Ky.
I put a T45 in my 93 and welded the clutch tube to the cv brake assembly. It worked great with the t45 and I'm stll using it with the T56.
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#1988346 - 02/25/10 10:04 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: Grandpacruiser]
2003SikVicP71 Offline
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Posts: 279
Loc: Atlanta, GA
 Originally Posted By: Grandpacruiser
Your gonna get the same replies I did... Not enough people have done the swap to really know, so were just gonna have to wing it.

I don't think the T3650 mounts in the same place as the T45. To answer the question you asked on MCE, the pedal assembly I got with my swap was custom built. I'm not sure who built it, but I purchased the Swap kit off of "lugnut" he's basically and inactive user because he sold his vic, but he will probably answer PMs sent to him.

If you want we can meet up and you can check out the pedal assembly and take some pics if you want.


that would be good as those are the only two things im confused about and to 2004_P71 can u give a little more info on how u modified the crossmember with maybe some pics or something as i can get either trans and im leaning towards the tr3650
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#1988352 - 02/25/10 10:10 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2003SikVicP71]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
Grand Poobah

Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 12107
Loc: Quebec Canada
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#1988367 - 02/25/10 10:26 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2004_p71]
2003SikVicP71 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 279
Loc: Atlanta, GA
hmm that helps a bit what type of shifter is that because thats exactly what im wanting for mine
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#1988494 - 02/26/10 06:04 AM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2003SikVicP71]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
Grand Poobah

Registered: 09/04/03
Posts: 12107
Loc: Quebec Canada
hurst short trow shifter. with a hurst handle designed for the older fox mustang style
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#1988840 - 02/26/10 04:28 PM Re: 5 spd swap issues [Re: 2004_p71]
thejsx Offline
Franken Stich!
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Registered: 09/09/05
Posts: 999
Loc: Quebec City
Go with a shifter with removable handle, because it will be easier to make or find one that suits you well, I've got myself a B&M short throw and it is not high enough for my taste, I'm considering either changing the whole thing or try to modify it.. I'd like to have at least 6'' more on the handle and coming toward the back too... so I don't have to stretch my arm on the third and fifth gear...!
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