#2116512 - 08/15/10 11:05 AM
Spotlight Install
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n00b
Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Pittsbugh, PA
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Hey folks...
You guys that run spotlights on your Vics, do you get any trouble with the Police? I'm already getting harassed by local PD for my tint and my car "looking like a police car" when its basically stock and not even a P71 and has NO markings whatsoever of Police Interceptor! I know some people run spotlights and even pushbars, but how does that go with the Police when they see you? I don't wanna go to jail for impersonating. I'm from Pittsburgh, PA so I'm sure your laws may be different than mine but I don't believe there are any against having a spotlight or pushbar, if trucks can have them why not a car?
Also, Anyone have any idea how to install one on a P73 2001? Thanks!
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#2116523 - 08/15/10 11:18 AM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: TFCfan2021]
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Poobah
Registered: 07/23/05
Posts: 5178
Loc: Chillicothe, Mo
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I was born & raised in Pa (Uniontown) & at that time (1950s) there wasn't a problem. I even had a spotlight on my first car. The best way to save yourself some grief is to check the state specs regarding pushbars & spotlights. I'm sure the state has a website that you can so a search on. By adding those 2 items you will immediately attract attention from the LEOS. I have owned 3 Crown Vics (93, 99 & a 04 Sport) & have never had a problem with law enforcement. Adding those items puts you in what is called here a "Wacker or a Wannabe". Just enjoy the car that you have. Your tint might be too dark for state limits could be the reason you are so popular with the police. Someone under the age of 40 driving a Crown Vic has been known to sound alarms to the police.
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#2116531 - 08/15/10 11:31 AM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: flyboy]
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n00b
Registered: 08/05/10
Posts: 43
Loc: tennessee
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hello, another point not mentioned about this topic , we say it as a joke in tennessee , but it's very true , if your vic looks nice , is nice and clean , tinted windows , all 4 hubcaps ,and tires all blacked up and shinny , you never draw a lot of attention , let it get dirty , or yank the caps off ,and we are on ya like stink on ...you know ...and that car looks like an under cover street app. car , ad a pusher , and a spotlight , the word FAKE flashes big , be careful , tick off one chick on the highway ,and you might not like a view with bars , not a joke !
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#2116535 - 08/15/10 11:38 AM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: TFCfan2021]
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Over the Hill
Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 3064
Loc: West Point, Ms
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Hey folks...
You guys that run spotlights on your Vics, do you get any trouble with the Police? I'm already getting harassed by local PD for my tint and my car "looking like a police car" when its basically stock and not even a P71 and has NO markings whatsoever of Police Interceptor! I know some people run spotlights and even pushbars, but how does that go with the Police when they see you? I don't wanna go to jail for impersonating. I'm from Pittsburgh, PA so I'm sure your laws may be different than mine but I don't believe there are any against having a spotlight or pushbar, if trucks can have them why not a car?
Also, Anyone have any idea how to install one on a P73 2001? Thanks! http://www.unityusa.com/Revised%20New%20...NSTRUCTIONS.pdfMy advice install at your own risk if you get cited take it off and sell it. Good Luck
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#2116560 - 08/15/10 12:07 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: AdamStryker]
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Over the Hill
Registered: 09/10/09
Posts: 1356
Loc: Wisconsin
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I have had no trouble at all with either the MD state troopers or the local county sheriffs. It's more about how you drive the car than what you're driving. Since I don't fly up and down the road dodging in and out of traffic, they don't bother me.
I will say that I've heard many stories about police departments in Pennsylvania bugging people who drive retired police cruisers. Even though yours isn't even a P71, I guess it's close enough for them. The window tint is probably an issue for them; I don't think adding a spotlight is a good idea, but that's your call.
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 2000 CVPI, 220K miles, new engine at 96K miles Outside: Trim rings, center caps, honeycomb grille, bumper tuck Inside: Dark mode disabled, Ultimate Console, 35% window tint Underneath: Raybestos Advanced Technology police front pads, Raybestos Professional Grade front rotors, KYB Gas-A-Just shocks (front and rear), Moog chassis parts (idler arm, pitman arm, tie rods, front sway bar bushings), U-haul transmission pan, General Altimax HP V-rated tires, oil cooler deleted Most recent: KYB Gas-A-Just shocks in the rear (old units came right out, no sawzall needed!!)
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#2116585 - 08/15/10 12:42 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: SPM]
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n00b
Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Pittsbugh, PA
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The tint I suppose is "illegal" per say, but its not much darker than your typical SUV or Truck rear windows. Its a shame they can call theirs "stock" but our poor cars don't come standard with tint on the rears and back windows. Its funny, I had even DARKER tint on my 95 Jimmy and was never was pulled over. Oh well, I guess it comes with the car lol
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#2116586 - 08/15/10 12:44 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: TFCfan2021]
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n00b
Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Pittsbugh, PA
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Plus like you said SPM, I drive normal. I dont drive up on people asses or do anything suspicious. I love my car. It gets better treatment than I do. Most people pass me on the highway and don't even think twice.
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2001 Crown Victoria P73 68,000 miles K&N Intake System, Custom Dual Exhaust, Flowmaster 40 Series Mufflers, 20% Front/5% Rear Tint
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#2116634 - 08/15/10 02:42 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: Steve99CVPI]
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n00b
Registered: 01/10/10
Posts: 43
Loc: Pittsbugh, PA
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I was just curious... I am def not doing that to my car. Its practically spotless, the old guy I bought it off of kept it spotless! Thanks for the compliment tho!
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2001 Crown Victoria P73 68,000 miles K&N Intake System, Custom Dual Exhaust, Flowmaster 40 Series Mufflers, 20% Front/5% Rear Tint
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#2116636 - 08/15/10 02:43 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: Nomad8326]
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Banned
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Registered: 04/25/10
Posts: 289
Loc: usa
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Spotlights are illegal in PA. We have had many many many threads over this is the lounges. IIRC the wording is very funny in the law. Easily interpreted either way.
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#2116647 - 08/15/10 02:57 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: Drac]
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Over the Hill
Registered: 09/10/09
Posts: 1356
Loc: Wisconsin
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I'm sort of in the same boat. If it were easily accomplished and covered up, I'd probably yank my spotlight out. About all it does right now is scare people into going really slow when I'm behind them, even though I'm keeping my distance.
Spotlights are illegal in PA?? Someone's gonna have to explain that to me.
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 2000 CVPI, 220K miles, new engine at 96K miles Outside: Trim rings, center caps, honeycomb grille, bumper tuck Inside: Dark mode disabled, Ultimate Console, 35% window tint Underneath: Raybestos Advanced Technology police front pads, Raybestos Professional Grade front rotors, KYB Gas-A-Just shocks (front and rear), Moog chassis parts (idler arm, pitman arm, tie rods, front sway bar bushings), U-haul transmission pan, General Altimax HP V-rated tires, oil cooler deleted Most recent: KYB Gas-A-Just shocks in the rear (old units came right out, no sawzall needed!!)
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#2116655 - 08/15/10 03:17 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: SPM]
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A suspicious mind is a healthy mind.
Poobah
Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 5653
Loc: Ohio
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Ok, I found where spotlights are prohibited. It appears to be in section 173.3 (9) http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter173/chap173toc.html(8) Utility lights. Clear or white forward or side facing steady burning utility lights (that is, take down, alley, spotlight) may not be used as a visual signal for purposes of 75 Pa.C.S. § 3325. These lights may be used while the vehicle is in motion or stationary for the purpose of an emergency, for the safety of the public, or in the enforcement of the law.
(9) Other lights. A vehicle, other than those identified in this chapter, may not be equipped with lights or systems identical or similar to those specified by this subsection, except that school buses and urban mass transit buses which will be used for carrying school children may be equipped with flashing lights as permitted by 75 Pa.C.S. § § 4552(b) and 4553(a) (relating to general requirements for school buses; and general requirements for other vehicles transporting school children), and Chapters 15 and 171 (relating to school buses; and school buses and school vehicles). http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1961919#Post1961919
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#2116657 - 08/15/10 03:21 PM
Re: Spotlight Install
[Re: Drac]
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Over the Hill
Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 4006
Loc: Plymouth, New Hampshire, USA
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I thought NH law was vague, but from past posts about PA law, it takes the cake. Sounds like CVN'ers form PA need to petition together to amend the law or at least clarify the meaning of it. In NH we have to get state inspected every year with plate renewals. VIP Auto was offering free state inspections so I bit. They already knew my car since they were the ones that replaced my exhaust manifolds. I knew there was nothing that would make the car fail, but I did have a hunch that the spotlight would be the only issue. I had looked up RSA 266:37 (state regulations) for New Hampshire and it states: 266:37 Spot Lamps and Auxiliary Lamps. – I. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed 2 spot lamps and every lighted spot lamp shall be so aimed and used that no part of the high intensity portion of the beam will strike the windshield, or any windows, mirror, or occupant of another vehicle in use, except that a spot lamp may be used by a police officer to illuminate the interior of a vehicle being stopped from the rear.
II. Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed 3 auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 12 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands, with such measurements to be made from the ground to the center of the lens, except that vehicles while used in the winter maintenance of ways may be driven with auxiliary head lamps higher than 42 inches above the surface upon which the vehicle stands provided such head lamps shall be aimed so that the top of the beam of light produced by these head lamps does not exceed the height of a horizontal line which is 42 inches high at a distance of 75 feet ahead of the head lamps of said vehicle.
III. Every spot lamp and auxiliary driving lamp shall be approved by the director. My mistake was that I did not have it printed with me at the time. I had to wait for 2 hours total for this tool to look and measure and look and measure. I could see him through the window and was getting pissed! He said that my spotlight was not legal because it was higher than 42 inches. He had a copy of this RSA himself. Keep in mind that it CAME WITH THE CAR from the FACTORY with it on. Here's the funny part. In NH, you have to have all factory safety equipment working, so I had to have the spotlight operational. DILEMMA (for him) I explained that spot lamps and auxiliary lamps are not the same and that he is not to interpret the law, just follow it. He ended up calling the State Police and had an Trooper tell him that they were IN FACT LEGAL and I asked "the tool" to write all that info the Trooper said along with his name on the inspection sheet so that next year (2010) I don't have to deal with this again. Lesson learned... I now carry in my envelope with all my records, a copy of RSA 266:37 just in case. Don't be afraid to do something when you know it is right, just be ready to back up what you say and do.
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