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#2142123 - 09/17/10 03:32 PM Help with 2005+ LCM bypass
h00r Offline
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Registered: 02/13/09
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Loc: Minneapolis, MN
Ive got a set of ebay led tails and im currently trying to put a 2 prong flasher in.

Im looking for the LB and the RED/WHT wires correct?
There are 2 LB wires and 2 RED/WHT wires in the same plug.

I do not know which set to use, the pinouts are very different from thhe older models like the diagram DROCK has for the turorial.

Can anyone help me and let me know which wires to cut, or does anyone actually have the pinout diagram???

I have an 06 vic
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|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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#2142222 - 09/17/10 06:27 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
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I believe the supermotors page that I've been given multiple times now has the 2005-2006 LCM diagrams in it. That does apply to your car...

That being said, I *still* can't make any sense of it haha
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#2142247 - 09/17/10 06:50 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: Acesanugal]
h00r Offline
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it has the diagrams for the whole lcm and thats great, however it does not have the pinout diagrams for 05+ at all and I'm running into the problem of having 2 of each of the wires needed to do this, so which freegin ones should i cut?
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--- 2006 Crown Vic Lx 61k - Dark Torator Red ---
|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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#2142272 - 09/17/10 07:12 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
Acesanugal Offline
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Are you just looking for power?
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2005 P71
3.27 open
180k, runs great!
Oddly clean inside...
Bumper Tuck
Headlight Wiring/Relay Upgrade
Second-Generation Cop Chip
...the usual squeaks, rattles, and tremors...

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#2142277 - 09/17/10 07:16 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: Acesanugal]
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Grab your multimeter and backprobe the LSM plugs at the LB and W/R wires.. turn on the ignition, and activate the indicators.

That's the only thing I can think to tell ya dude. trial and error.
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2005 P71
3.27 open
180k, runs great!
Oddly clean inside...
Bumper Tuck
Headlight Wiring/Relay Upgrade
Second-Generation Cop Chip
...the usual squeaks, rattles, and tremors...

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#2142280 - 09/17/10 07:20 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
Happy Birthday BlackVic_P71 Offline
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It does have the pinout, in the diagram, for the '06+ but having the 2 LB and 2 WH/RD wires may just make it more confusing. Have you tried just hooking the lights as is and see if you get the fast flash?
I just looked at the diagram and looked at the connector in my '05 and it's just one of each wire as it should be, they are right next to each other in the top of the black connector.


Try to contact dRock(interior and electronics guru) or Motasim123(wired all LED signal and brake lights on his '07)
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#2142315 - 09/17/10 07:59 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: BlackVic_P71]
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I havent tried wiring them in at all yet.
The plug for my 06 has 2 LB on the top left where BlackVic's pic shows RED/WHT and MY plug has 2 RED/WHT on the bottom (opposing) side next to each other.
My plug also looks a little less wide...
here is a bad quality pic taken with my phone:
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--- 2006 Crown Vic Lx 61k - Dark Torator Red ---
|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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#2142344 - 09/17/10 08:33 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
GrandMarq9807 Offline
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Looking at a '07 wiring diagram, I believe you'll find the two WH/R and the two LB connect to the same points inside the LCM... Both WH/R is listed as being power(ciruit 385) and do feed to the LCM from a common point(so these are no doubt common to each other)... The two LB is circuit 44 and feed different points on the multifunction switch... Measure the pins on the LCM the LB wires connect to and see if they are common to each other, will read almost zero ohms if they are...

I'm 99% sure if you connect the two WH/Red and the two LB together you'll have it whipped...
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#2142350 - 09/17/10 08:45 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: GrandMarq9807]
h00r Offline
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well i sure hope that works, the only other thing i can think of is an additional flasher? Idk thats just a wild guess
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--- 2006 Crown Vic Lx 61k - Dark Torator Red ---
|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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#2142479 - 09/18/10 12:03 AM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
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Like the 1998 and up Town Car, the 2006 and up CV/GMQ have two wires into and two wires out of the LCM for the flasher function.

I believe this was done as the flasher wiring has moved to a smaller connector with smaller terminal pins - which may not be capable of carrying the current draw over a single pair of pins.

The two LB wires are spliced from a single LB wire just ahead of the LCM connector - likewise for the White/Red wires.


Just use both wires for the upstream and downstream sides. If using crimp connections, use the yellow color coded terminals (female spade)
There is no need to use two flashers.
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#2142531 - 09/18/10 02:53 AM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: dRock96Marquis]
h00r Offline
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so either cut the wire ahead before it splits into 2 wires, or i can connect the two together and plug them into the flasher 2 wires to each pin?
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--- 2006 Crown Vic Lx 61k - Dark Torator Red ---
|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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#2142651 - 09/18/10 10:57 AM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
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I guess it's just a matter of waiting for dRock to stop by to get the answers you seek.
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#2147551 - 09/25/10 05:22 PM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: h00r]
dRock96Marquis Offline

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 Originally Posted By: h00r
so either cut the wire ahead before it splits into 2 wires, or i can connect the two together and plug them into the flasher 2 wires to each pin?

Yes, just make sure you are only pairing wires of the SAME color ;\)
This is really a 5 minute 'mod' ;\)
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#2150812 - 09/30/10 02:46 AM Re: Help with 2005+ LCM bypass [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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lol thanks drock
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--- 2006 Crown Vic Lx 61k - Dark Torator Red ---
|-BOC TUNE from Lonnie 92 octane-|-05 CVPI 80mm MAF-|-Marauder Wheels(winter)-|-LED Taillights-|-Body color surround HoneyComb grille-|-MagnaFlows with 3" Rolled-|-NightShades reverse and tails-|-Blackout Headligt Mod-|-Marauder Corners-|-Pioneer Double DIN-|-38% side Tint-|-15% rear tint-|SONY 800 to 4xInfinity Kappas-|-Kicker kx1200.1 to Kicker L715-|-220amp Alt-|-2nd Battery in Trunk-|-
--- 1985 Buick Rivera 95k - Midnight Blue --- SOLD
|-E&G Classics, Rolls Royce Style Grille-|-NOS '79 Disc Hubcaps-|-20% side tint-|-3% rear tint-|

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