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#2242320 - 02/19/11 03:05 PM How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest
GhostRider Offline

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I got a buddy, ASE Certified Mechanic (though he works for a Chrysler dealer) who is going to do my 60K service for $100 + parts. This is a huge savings compared to the $500+ the dealer wants. I need to do a transmission flush, coolant flush, fuel filter, air filter

Here is what I need

VC-7-B -- Motorcraft Premium Gold Antifreeze
XT-5-QM -- Motorcraft Automatic Transmission Fluid
FG-986-B -- Motorcraft Fuel Filter
FA-1032 -- Motorcraft Air Filter

I know for the 2006 CVPI I need 14 quarts (13.9 quarts per the manual) of Automatic Transmission Fluid. However, antifreeze is sold by the gallon and the owners manual lists 18.6 quarts. If my math is right, thats 4.65 gallons, so I would buy 5 gallons. Can anyone verify this for me?

Also, the manual calls for part number XT-5-QM for the Automatic Transmission Fluid. The dealer gave me XT-5-QMC. Whats the difference? The parts guy said XT-5-QM was superceeded but I dont show any supersession info for this and it shows up as 2 different part numbers on Tasca's site.

Is there anywhere other then the dealer I can get these fluids or parts? Oreilly Auto Parts only stocks the oil, not the ATF or Coolant. I want Motorcraft only. Thanks!
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#2242331 - 02/19/11 03:40 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
QuicksterP71 Offline
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4 quarts to a gal 14/4=3.5 gals
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#2242371 - 02/19/11 05:25 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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Originally Posted By: GhostRider
If my math is right, thats 4.65 gallons, so I would buy 5 gallons. Can anyone verify this for me?

You will be mixing the coolant with distilled water. You need about 2 gallons of coolant (you are not going to get all the old coolant out).

Call the parts department at the dealership, and ask them to make you a deal on the parts you need. My local dealer sold me the Mercon V for 4 bucks a quart because I bought a case.


Edited by Dan04Merc (02/19/11 05:26 PM)
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#2242384 - 02/19/11 05:55 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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I don't think I have gotten more than 3 gallons of coolant and water in mine, and I use a shop vac to get about a gallon after it is done draining from the radiator.

Is the transmission just going to be a pan drop, or some other method of getting more fluid out of it, like a fluid exchange? A simple pan drop is like 4 or 5 quarts, some way to drain the TC (which you don't have a drain plug) is another 6 or 7.
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#2242425 - 02/19/11 06:59 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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Bangster, its going to be a transmission flush.

So I will need 3.5 gallons (4 in other words) of coolant?
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#2242504 - 02/19/11 09:21 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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No, 2 gallons of NON diluted coolant. If you are using a trans fluid machine, I would pick up 16 qts of trans fluid.

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#2242515 - 02/19/11 09:39 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
Raybo Offline
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Transmission flush and your talking coolant?
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#2242541 - 02/19/11 10:36 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
QuicksterP71 Offline
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Depending on weather you get diluted or undiluted coolant you will either need
Undiluted antifreeze 3 gallons and 3 gals of distilled water to mix it with
Diluted antifreeze you will need 5 gals

I donít believe that you can buy the gold antifreeze in the undiluted form just be aware of the when you go to buy it.


Edited by QuicksterP71 (02/19/11 11:15 PM)
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#2242554 - 02/19/11 11:13 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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According to the 06 owners manual your car takes
13.9 quarts of mercon V atf
18.6 quarts of gold antifreeze or 4.6 gal
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#2242680 - 02/20/11 09:17 AM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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I think people here are getting confused.

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Transmission flush and your talking coolant?


I poised 2 questions. The first was how many gallons of coolant I needed. The second was about the ATF part #


Quote:
According to the 06 owners manual your car takes
13.9 quarts of mercon V atf
18.6 quarts of gold antifreeze or 4.6 gal


I already know what the owners manual says. I even cited it in my post above. Thats where part of my problem started. They list antifreeze in quarts, and sell it in gallons. They should just list it in gallons as they sell it

Quote:
I donít believe that you can buy the gold antifreeze in the undiluted form just be aware of the when you go to buy it.


I will ask the Ford dealer.

Quote:
If you are using a trans fluid machine, I would pick up 16 qts of trans fluid.


16 gallons when the owners manual calls for about 14? Why?

Also, anyone know about this:
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Also, the manual calls for part number XT-5-QM for the Automatic Transmission Fluid. The dealer gave me XT-5-QMC. Whats the difference? The parts guy said XT-5-QM was superceeded but I dont show any supersession info for this and it shows up as 2 different part numbers on Tasca's site.
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#2242685 - 02/20/11 09:37 AM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
QuicksterP71 Offline
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There are 4 quarts in a gallon. This may be the easiest way of doing in. Call your mechanic tell him the capacities for both coolant and trans fluid and ask him how much you should buy
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#2244025 - 02/22/11 08:58 AM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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He told me 1 gallon of coolant and 13-16 quarts ATF. Something doesnt seem right to me. Again, he is a Chrysler mechanic
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#2244414 - 02/22/11 08:12 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
Dan04Merc Offline
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One gallon of coolant is probably all you will need, you will get about 2 gallons of liquid out of the cooling system when you pull the lower radiator hose.

One gallon coolant+one gallon distilled water go back in.
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#2609482 - 10/10/12 09:04 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
Greengo Offline
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I would like to change my radiator coolant soon. How much antifreeze mix did you end up needing Ghostrider? And you used the motorcraft gold? Did you consider or find any other lower cost alternatives?
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#2609503 - 10/10/12 09:32 PM Re: How many gallons of antifreeze & Trans fluid quest [Re: GhostRider]
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Whoops. Old thread.


Edited by ghostmerc01 (10/10/12 09:33 PM)
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