NICE!!!

LMAO!

I don’t think anyone needs a mechanical assessment about what gonna happen to the car, super goofy big wheels are in no way motor sports enthusiast society, it’s part of the Happy teeny MTV society! now all these kids watching that stuff want their cars to look like it’s from a Video clip for the song "bling bling dot com bring your mom" so while its parked two hot sweaty chicks will appear out of nowhere and shake their booty around it!

Big wheels like that are for Shows IMO, panthers are awesome cars and can look really great if you spend the same money your willing to spend on destroying it.

Ok, I have to admit.... this made me laugh pretty frickin hard...

ROFLMAO! ^^^ This has to be the "BIG RIMZ" quote of the year
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now that is funny, lol

I just laughed my ass off. Thanks, now i have to go find it.

Well said. But it doesn't matter how many times someone explains it or shows examples of a car that is done properly, unless you agree with them, you'll always be wrong. It's just not worth arguing with the idiots on this site. Unfortunately, that describes a vast majority of members.

The ones that are "done right" (in other words, the car's front end is aligned to factory specs, the suspension has plenty of travel in both directions, nothing rubs) are few and far between compared to the total hack jobs out there. Also, the ones that are "done right" still have significant disadvantages to more normal sized wheels. Such as braking/brake wear, ride quality, handling, and durability of the tire/wheel combo.

So if you want to think we're all idiots for failing to see the point of spending a lot of money to esentially cause a lot of damage to a car, all in the name of vanity, go right ahead. I stand by my advice that unless you have a lot of money to spend on added maintenance to brakes, suspension, wheels and tires, don't do this to your daily driver. Save it for the trailer queens.

Everyone that posts in these threads makes generalizations based on what they've seen on television or the internet. I'll bet any sum of money you want that at least 7 out of 10 posters haven't driven a car with wheels larger than 22", so they're speaking from hearsay, not experience (even though they might claim to). I personally have driven a car with 22s. The claims that 22+s are unsafe, handling/braking is unsafe and irresponsible is absolutely ridiculous. People tow trailers without upgrading their brakes, but how often do you get on their cases? People with overloaded cars don't upgrade their brakes, but how often are they criticized?

The line that someone doesn't "understand" or "fails to see the point" of these cars comes up in every one of these threads and is total [censored]. I don't see the point of investing thousands of dollars into an outdated, overweight, underpowered car just to run 13s at the end of the day. But I don't comment on every performance thread calling people that do that stupid/uneducated and mention my lack of understanding.

You can have an opinion, but that's exactly what it is.

And you would know this how exactly?



And what car/who's car have you driven that came with 22s? And if it's a factory car with 22s it doesn't even come close to counting. Have you driven any car where the factory wheel options don't go bigger than 19" but had 22s, 24s or even 26s on it? I have, I've driven all three... A Toyota Avalon, A 92 Grand Marquis, and a 72 Chevelle. Diobolical is the best way to describe each of those three. The handling? Can't turn lock to lock without powersteering or rubbing issues, which cut into the belts and stalled the car. Braking? Well stock drums on the Chevelle were probably the best of the three, the other two went right to the floorboard with massive pulsing issues. Ride? Well it was on a parking lot, but there was absolutely no give in the suspension. As I saw first hand with the Donk Pontiac Gbody how little the suspension actually moves on a car being used on a race course. Granted that thing was slow...any faster and there could have been problems.



Yet here you are, with the same car, with the same mods everyone else does... Pot calling the kettle



And your's is just that much more wrong.

While you're at your witty comback, find us some examples of 'DONKs' or Big wheeled Panthers done right.

I can garantee you won't find more than 3 that are any better than that lousy Black P71 with the bent springs.

I don't know that. It's a bet made to make a point. Nearly everyone on this site that posts regularly hates those wheels. It's only natural to determine that the majority haven't tried driving with them. And a large minority of members would care not to be seen with anyone riding big wheels, whether it be class issues, racial issues, or just stubbornness.
And everyone makes decisions in life based on things they've learned, seen, heard, or experienced. It applies to this thread as much as anything else in life.


It was a college friend's Charger. 22's with no other suspension/brake modifications. It handled better than my dad's '68 Catalina, and could stop in less than 1/3 of the distance. Yet the Catalina doesn't (well, "didn't" before the new NJ inspection process) require any inspection at all.


I've spent $1200 on wheels, lowering springs, and exhaust. Not sure how your comparison fits, but whatever.


Maybe.


http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/194/4801/25484900001_large.jpg
24s. No cuts, no lift.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT-8qoN4cJA&feature=player_embedded
24s. No cuts, no lift.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b183/tez4life/20110220111209.jpg
24s. No cuts, twist-in spring knuckles. Not as safe as new springs and control arms, but way better than "cups".
There are guys with custom springs (or longer springs of the same diameter from a different car) and tons of people with air suspension.

Excuse me sir- but branding fellow members "idiots" is just uncalled for. We all agree and disagree on some topics- That's what this forum is for- discussions- Not accusations. Members may agree or disagree with one another's taste or point of view- just because some disagree with a particular issue that does not mean that it is ok to call them "idiots".

No cuts and no lift is only a small piece of the puzzle, you know this.

Can they turn lock to lock without rubbing issues? Can the powersteering handle the lock to lock turn (lifted 250's w retard flashy rockstars and tires can't even manage that, that's with a 5k suspension lift)? Have the pads been upgraded? Have the brakes been upgraded? How stiff is the suspension on those cars? Can you compress the suspension by lightly pushing down on the car or do you need 2 350lb men jumping on the hood to compress the suspension?

Putting big wheels on a car is just one step...it's not the one and only thing you do, which is exactly what 98% of people who put these wheels on these cars do. You need to make sure nothing else is being put under stress on the car...and the cold reality is that not a lot of people do that.

Oh, and exhaust, lowering springs and wheels are mods done to a BOF car that are just as 'dumb' as performance mods you've criticized everyone else here for. And performance mods usually don't involve cutting corners that could put the general public at risk because they weren't done right. Something that can't be said for the big wheeled crowd.