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#2370168 - 09/12/11 04:50 PM Water Pump Replacement. Help?
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I need to replace my water pump and unfortunately I have no experience with cars. I've been told replacing the water pump is not that hard on the 2005 CV.

May anyone with experience help me out? :] I'd love to learn and save some $ instead of paying the garage $175 for an aftermarket water pump (parts + labor)


Edited by SKimber (09/12/11 04:50 PM)
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#2370188 - 09/12/11 05:35 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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Registered: 03/23/08
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never changed a water pump.

i have changed my intake manifold on my vic. done almost all servicing on it too.

I just finished removing my old fuel filter setup on my truck and replaced it with an aftermarket setup.

I helped my buddy with an 01 Ranger 4x4 drop his automatic transmission and put in a manual transmission.

I would be willing to help change a water pump
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#2370191 - 09/12/11 05:43 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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Once you drain the coolant & remove the pulley, it's only 4 bolts to remove it. Sometimes the pump can be a bit stubborn to come out of the block, but being in California I'm sure yours won't be as bad as they get over here.
Make sure your new pump comes with a new O-ring, if it doesn't, get one. I apply vaseline to the new O-ring after installing the O-ring on the pump. This will help make sure you don't roll the O-ring over upon installation. Just tighten the bolts slowly and evenly until the water pump is seated. IIRC the torque spec is 20 lb/ft, might want to double-check that.

Then re-install the pulley and re-fill with coolant.

At least that's how I did mine. If anyone has anything to add, please feel free.

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#2370458 - 09/13/11 02:18 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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^thanks GSDNH for the instructions!
Thanks MJ for the offer!

If there are any more to add/change to GSDNH's post please do! I would love to do this correctly.

Any suggestions on water pumps?
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#2370461 - 09/13/11 02:24 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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i have read that EMP Stewart or the Cobra waterpumps are the way to go. some claim 12 degrees cooler temp

i have also read that a new belt and tensioner is a good idea at this time.

i keep my old tensioner in the trunk if it still is ok because then if it breaks on me i can fix it on the road and keep on truckin banana


Edited by FireFightin_MJ (09/13/11 02:26 AM)
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#2370462 - 09/13/11 02:24 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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Are you looking for a high-performance water pump, or just a good replacement water pump?

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#2370465 - 09/13/11 02:28 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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I know that the '04 Cobra is the exact same as the 03+ CV water pump.
EMP Stewart idk..

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#2370468 - 09/13/11 02:33 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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My motor is older than yours, but I know there were short, and long water pumps. Might want to make sure you get the proper application.
Gotta swap the corresponding pulley BTW there are two different pulleys as well.

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#2370471 - 09/13/11 02:45 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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The 2005 uses a 65mm short. :]
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#2370474 - 09/13/11 02:47 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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Sweet.
Is it done yet?

Haha J/K wink

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#2370476 - 09/13/11 02:49 AM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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http://idmsvcs.com/2vmod/waterpump/index.html
There's a great writeup here that should explain absolutely everything, including what parts to use.
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#2370661 - 09/13/11 01:20 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
SKimber Offline
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^ thanks for the link!

Is there any suggestions on brand?
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#2370663 - 09/13/11 01:21 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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People here seem to like the Stewart/EMP pump.
I run an Evans, but IMHO that is overkill for your engine.

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#2370667 - 09/13/11 01:28 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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What is overkill may I ask?
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#2370670 - 09/13/11 01:34 PM Re: Water Pump Replacement. Help? [Re: SKimber]
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I went with a remanufactured shrouded impeller water pump from A1 cardon. I have used parts from them before with no issues.


O'reilly auto parts stocks them.


The high performance ones will be over kill because you have a stock engine. Its not really needed unless you plan to do heavy mods in the future. I figure if the stock style was good enough for police duty.......its good enough for me.
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