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#270545 - 10/21/03 08:43 PM TRANSMISSION--AMSOil ATF - Eliminates Shudder!
95CrownVictoriaP74 Posting Addict Registered: 11/28/00 Posts: 16675 Loc: Dixie County, Florida	236,502 miles...........12 fresh quarts of AMSOil synthetic transmission fluid and new Ford filter element.....a car that shuddered moderately is now shudder free! Of course, I have only tested the car up steep hills and WOT for 20 miles, I cannot believe it! Anyone else have AMSOil stories relating to transmissions? Edited by Liquid (11/21/04 10:11 AM) _________________________ 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX 2016 Volkswagen Jetta SEL Hybrid 2017 Volkswagen Jetta GLI (Previous vehicles: 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP, 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2000 Crown Victoria HPP, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T, & 2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature)
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#270546 - 10/21/03 09:47 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder!
Buck268 Grand Poobah Registered: 02/27/02 Posts: 12132 Loc: Grand Rapids, MI	Good to hear man! _________________________ Dead: 1994 Crown Vic LX/HPP... over 190,000 miles when she got totalled Gone: 1996 Mustang GT 5spd, drop top, Bassani OR X-pipe, Dynomax Ultraflows, PI Cams, K&N FIPK, C&L Elbow and 75mm TB, PIAA 1700X... Dead: 2012 Mustang V6 Performance Package, Kona Blue with MagnaFlow "Street" catback. KIA August 2012
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#270547 - 10/21/03 11:29 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
lookin4acruiser Member Registered: 06/17/02 Posts: 468	I hope it doesn't come back buddy. When my tranny was serviced I'm not sure what they put in there but the shudder was completely GONE for about a week and a half. Came back. But definitely not as bad. Hopefully yours stays away. Keep us posted! _________________________ Shopping for a car is like shopping for a wife. Both should include a short ride to make sure your investment is worth it. Matt
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#270548 - 10/21/03 11:32 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
Buck268 Grand Poobah Registered: 02/27/02 Posts: 12132 Loc: Grand Rapids, MI	If the Amsoil took care of the shudder, it almost certainly was only shuddering due to excessively old fluid and wont come back _________________________ Dead: 1994 Crown Vic LX/HPP... over 190,000 miles when she got totalled Gone: 1996 Mustang GT 5spd, drop top, Bassani OR X-pipe, Dynomax Ultraflows, PI Cams, K&N FIPK, C&L Elbow and 75mm TB, PIAA 1700X... Dead: 2012 Mustang V6 Performance Package, Kona Blue with MagnaFlow "Street" catback. KIA August 2012
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#270549 - 10/22/03 10:15 AM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
95CrownVictoriaP74 Posting Addict Registered: 11/28/00 Posts: 16675 Loc: Dixie County, Florida	Fuuny thing was it still shuddered after the last service with Ford Mercon V. Will keep y'all posted. _________________________ 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX 2016 Volkswagen Jetta SEL Hybrid 2017 Volkswagen Jetta GLI (Previous vehicles: 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP, 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2000 Crown Victoria HPP, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T, & 2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature)
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#270550 - 10/22/03 10:37 AM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
metroplex Metroplectic Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 49827 Loc: Motor City, USA	The only permanent fix for shudder is to replace the torque converter. Otherwise everything else is a band-aid fix. The Amsoil ATF for your situation might just be a thicker and more durable band-aid. _________________________ These aren't the droids you're looking for!
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#270551 - 10/27/03 08:11 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
95CrownVictoriaP74 Posting Addict Registered: 11/28/00 Posts: 16675 Loc: Dixie County, Florida	How many torque convertors will it take for one to last over 60,000 miles? _________________________ 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX 2016 Volkswagen Jetta SEL Hybrid 2017 Volkswagen Jetta GLI (Previous vehicles: 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP, 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2000 Crown Victoria HPP, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T, & 2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature)
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#270552 - 10/27/03 08:51 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
metroplex Metroplectic Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 49827 Loc: Motor City, USA	Quote: How many torque convertors will it take for one to last over 60,000 miles? The thing is if you're PCM isn't programmed to reduce/eliminate torque converter slippage in 3rd gear, you're always going to shudder eventually even if you get a new torque converter. I remember a TSB stating that the final solution is a new torque converter. Any and all ATF/liquids you dump into a tranny to "solve" the shudder issue is just a band-aid solution. Now if you started from scratch and used Amsoil ATF or Redline D4 ATF in conjunction with a beefy ATF cooler and the stock PCM tranny programming (I believe all new Fords won't shudder anymore cause of the revised programming - Jerry's chips addressed this issue back in the day BTW) your chances of shuddering are almost nil _________________________ These aren't the droids you're looking for!
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#270553 - 10/28/03 07:53 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
95CrownVictoriaP74 Posting Addict Registered: 11/28/00 Posts: 16675 Loc: Dixie County, Florida	The torque convertor was replaced and transmission rebuilt at 173,000 miles. Shuddering started at 165,000. I should be good until 320,000 miles! _________________________ 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX 2016 Volkswagen Jetta SEL Hybrid 2017 Volkswagen Jetta GLI (Previous vehicles: 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP, 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2000 Crown Victoria HPP, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T, & 2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature)
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#270554 - 10/28/03 09:31 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
Fred Over the Hill Registered: 03/20/02 Posts: 4160 Loc: Wakefield, Massachusetts	Wow, 173k miles is pretty damn good for a tranny ('specially a Ford tranny ). Maybe there's hope for my '95 to last as long... _________________________ 1995 Mercury Grand Marquis LS HPP - 114k miles - TOTALED by Box truck in June of 2005 Current: 2008 Honda Civic SI 2-door
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#270555 - 10/28/03 10:16 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
metroplex Metroplectic Registered: 11/13/00 Posts: 49827 Loc: Motor City, USA	Quote: The torque convertor was replaced and transmission rebuilt at 173,000 miles. Shuddering started at 165,000. I should be good until 320,000 miles! wow How often was the fluid changed in that transmission? What did you use? Why did you say the Amsoil ATF cured the shudder when you just got a new torque converter in there? _________________________ These aren't the droids you're looking for!
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#270556 - 10/29/03 06:02 PM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
95CrownVictoriaP74 Posting Addict Registered: 11/28/00 Posts: 16675 Loc: Dixie County, Florida	When I first got the car, I ran the recommended Ford Mercon fluid, every 20,000 miles. Ran into shuddering at 165,000.....changed with Mercon V twice in 3,000 miles.....no change. Since the new transmission, I service it every 20,000 miles. I let the last service go until 37,000.....but it shuddered since the last service. AMSOil.....the only thing that my transmissions will ever see again! _________________________ 2004 Ford Crown Victoria LX 2016 Volkswagen Jetta SEL Hybrid 2017 Volkswagen Jetta GLI (Previous vehicles: 1995 Crown Victoria LX HPP, 1997 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, 2000 Crown Victoria HPP, 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T, & 2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature)
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#270557 - 11/21/03 12:33 AM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
P71 Patriot n00b Registered: 10/26/03 Posts: 34	I'm reviving this topic because of the similar problem I'm having. My plans are, to replace the torque converter, use Amsoil ATF, replace the filter, and maybe check the tranny cooler for the usual wear and tear. Does this sound like the thing to do, other than buying a new tranny complete? My 93 CV-PI has 210K miles, on the body anyway (frame, etc), supposedly the engine was replaced and has 90-something K miles on it... this leads me to believe the tranny has 210K miles on it as well. The guy I bought it from couldn't answer ALL my questions about it, so, my next crusade is, since I found out I know the guy, this guy bought it from... I'm going to see him for more details. Anwyay, any tips on my tranny plans would be appreciated. _________________________ P71 Patriot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/usaflag1.gif" alt="" /> '93 Crown Vic - PI
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#270558 - 11/21/03 02:38 AM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
p71towny Over the Hill Registered: 02/14/03 Posts: 1751 Loc: Ft. Wayne IN	I'm still a firm believer in changing the accumulators. I changed my 1-2 and that fixed it. Now I need to change my other accumulator. _________________________ 1995 Town Car, flowmaster 50's, gutted cats, gutted evap system, cold air tube, MMairbox & 80mm maf, K&N air filter, DR chip, 180 thermostat, 22pp plugs, Steeda underdrive pulleys w/gatorback belt, transgo shift kit, cross-drilled rotors w/performance friction pads, addco swaybars front and rear, poly bushings, edelbrock IAS shocks all around, deleted mechanical fan, Kenwood MP4028 w/kenwood 6x9's and 6x8's and more to come 1982 Crown Vic LTD 2dr No air pump or cats, cragar ss's, dual exhaust, tach, volt, oil, temp gauges.
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#270559 - 11/21/03 03:10 AM Re: AMSOil Transmission Fluid - Eliminates Shudder
Enkay Over the Hill Registered: 05/06/03 Posts: 3931	Quote: Wow, 173k miles is pretty damn good for a tranny ('specially a Ford tranny ). Maybe there's hope for my '95 to last as long... I've got close to 220k on an original AOD, and probably 200K on the TC(was having problems when it was new, according to my dad) _________________________ Ken R.I.P 1992 P74 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> 3/91-8/04 Now driving 1997 Buick Park Avenue Picture Pending...
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