#2921111 - 10/04/15 02:05 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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[quote=Tenevic_P71]Is that the one off Lovell road? If it works out for you, let me know. I am looking for door rods as well. Yeah, over near dutchtown. It'll probably be a little while before I get a chance to stop in. I'm rarely out in that area, especially during business hours. I'll tell you if/when I do though.
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#2921112 - 10/04/15 02:18 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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A Georgia PD :All three of the law enforcement officials said they have looked at the new Ford product meant for police use. The consensus is that it isn’t the best option.
“I looked at the new Ford and I know they cost a bit more than the Charger and they’re small,” Moats said. “I had a hard time sitting in them.”
Dodd said the Ford interceptors are about $1,000 more than Chargers, and were so small that one of his bigger officers could barely get out of the front seat.
All three have one car in mind that suited police well.
“In a perfect world, I’d like to have the (Ford) Crown Vic back,” Sorrells said, adding that he has used a Crown Victoria for 36 of his 38 years in law enforcement.
Dodd said the reasoning is simple: The Ford Crown Vic was reliable.
“The Crown Vic was a proven vehicle. When they did away with it, it was disappointing,” Dodd said.
Moats said, “If the Crown Vic were still available, we would go with them.”
Apparently they didn't use the cvpi like we and most others do. Ours have been failing like crazy lately. The usual axle seal leaks (which was always a problem) and now the blower motors and cooling fans seem to be the new area of concern. They really did throw the 2011s together with scrap parts.
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#2921113 - 10/04/15 02:20 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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And departments couldn't let go of them. I still see CVPIs in regular patrol work. The newest one is 4 years old now.
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#2921169 - 10/04/15 07:45 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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don't get riled, sugar!
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We still have 07's in service. Yet they are holding up better than the '11s right now. But why is it acceptable to call a vehicle reliable when the manufacturer continued to use faulty axle seals for a minimum of 15 years? Every one I got brand new (98, 02, 05 & 08) had the seals replaced at either 3000 or 6000 miles. The '11s have made it into 40k mile range, but are having the entire axles replaced. Im not saying it isn't common, but Ive never had a axle leak from any point on my panthers. My 00 CVPI has no record of service being done to axle and is dry as a bone @130k
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#2921171 - 10/04/15 07:50 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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I guess they are just putting one last hurting on the CV fleet before they toss them. That's definitely what my local PD is doing. We had a cat fight at my local bar a few nights back. The cops were in the parking lot and apparently got another call...sirens and lights went crazy, and I heard the familiar tire screech + Mod V8 roar that will soon be just a memory.
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#2921183 - 10/04/15 08:46 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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I still see lots of CVPIs in service. Chargers seem to be gaining in popularity.
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#2921186 - 10/04/15 09:04 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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We still have 07's in service. Yet they are holding up better than the '11s right now. But why is it acceptable to call a vehicle reliable when the manufacturer continued to use faulty axle seals for a minimum of 15 years? Every one I got brand new (98, 02, 05 & 08) had the seals replaced at either 3000 or 6000 miles. The '11s have made it into 40k mile range, but are having the entire axles replaced. Im not saying it isn't common, but Ive never had a axle leak from any point on my panthers. My 00 CVPI has no record of service being done to axle and is dry as a bone @130k All the Panthers that I've owned except 2 Aeros and boxes had axle leaks.
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#2921191 - 10/04/15 09:26 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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We still have 07's in service. Yet they are holding up better than the '11s right now. But why is it acceptable to call a vehicle reliable when the manufacturer continued to use faulty axle seals for a minimum of 15 years? Every one I got brand new (98, 02, 05 & 08) had the seals replaced at either 3000 or 6000 miles. The '11s have made it into 40k mile range, but are having the entire axles replaced. Im not saying it isn't common, but Ive never had a axle leak from any point on my panthers. My 00 CVPI has no record of service being done to axle and is dry as a bone @130k All the Panthers that I've owned except 2 Aeros and boxes had axle leaks. My '96 didn't leak. My '97 did, at right about 85k IIRC. Wasn't bad, but the area where the parking brake should be was damp and the bearing had a bit of play. Axle was fine, so new seal and bearing on both sides and it didn't leak until I managed to mangle the diff cover a few months ago. My buddy's '03 developed a leak at 125k-ish. A bad leak at that. It got bearings and seals on both sides, but its axles were also fine despite being an early build '03. It may have had them done before, IDK.
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#2921192 - 10/04/15 09:31 PM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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I was told not to use synthetic gear oil in the 8.8. When i was with Brevard County we also had axle leaks. We were using synthetic gear oil. After we switched to conventional and the leaks stopped. What conventional oil were you using? I know the spec calls for 75w140 which is all semi synthetic and quite expensive.
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#2921231 - 10/05/15 12:44 AM
Re: Did Ford make a mistake?
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Restrictive front doors  Half assed paint job, including a white wrap over the black paint   and flat seats. I can see why it's not selling so well. Probably only had 2 of these in my bay all year.
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