.
Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure! registry | CVN on Facebook | tech | links | news | email login | chat Make payments with PayPal - it's fast, free and secure!


Welcome to CVN - Your Panther platform headquarters!


Custom Search


Topic Options
#50184 - 11/23/02 10:28 PM ENGINE: IGNITION--Pic of my bad Coil pack
Mr_Ash Offline
Poobah

Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 5791
Loc: DuPage Co., IL


Attachments
113286-cp.jpg (124 downloads)



Edited by Liquid (12/15/03 07:31 AM)
_________________________

"Last of the V-8 Interceptors"

2000 Ford Crown Victoria
Deep wedgewood Blue
56,XXX Miles
Gray Cloth Interior
Goodyear GT HR's
Deluxe Wheel covers

1992 P74 (Silver/Grey 98k) ~ Totaled/Sold
1994 P71 (Black/Blue 152k) ~ Under Construction
1996 P71 (Blue/Blue 143k) ~ Totaled

Top
#50185 - 11/23/02 11:04 PM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
lumper Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 1388
Loc: connecticut
following this was fun, thanx for the pic, i know it helped me.

Top
#50186 - 11/23/02 11:15 PM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Mr_Ash Offline
Poobah

Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 5791
Loc: DuPage Co., IL
Good way to test the coil packs is start the car and pull each plug/connector/boot thingy off the coil pack (ONE AT A TIME! or its a shock fest!), if ya see a spark it works if not then replace it!

Ooooh yeah, Jesse (CommandoVic) told me to where THICK rubber gloves, I figured "Ahh what the hell is a little shock!" needless to say I shocked my self about 17 times! plus a few times when my wrist watch touched the throttle body while reving the engine and holding a plug wire near the coil pack in the other hand! (DOUBLE SHOCK!)

Changing them out is VERY EASY! all you need to do is remove 4 lil bolts (its a small socket, cant remember number and tools are in my trunk) All you need is a ratchet and a Extention. IMO it would be best to leave all of the plug wires connected to the Old coil pack untill you have the new one bolted in that way you dont accdently switch any of the wires around!
_________________________

"Last of the V-8 Interceptors"

2000 Ford Crown Victoria
Deep wedgewood Blue
56,XXX Miles
Gray Cloth Interior
Goodyear GT HR's
Deluxe Wheel covers

1992 P74 (Silver/Grey 98k) ~ Totaled/Sold
1994 P71 (Black/Blue 152k) ~ Under Construction
1996 P71 (Blue/Blue 143k) ~ Totaled

Top
#50187 - 11/24/02 02:48 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Anonymous
Unregistered


that's my next project after the waterpump,belt tensioner,and idler pulley.

Top
#50188 - 11/24/02 09:29 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Tony_the_Brit Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 09/16/01
Posts: 2906
Loc: Indiana - South Bend area
A suggestion is to always clean your coli packs at this time of year (unless your engine is kept shiny all year round of course).

Just remove the connections (remembering/marking which ones go where) and then clean with WD40 and a rag.

Dirt can provide an initial path for "tracking" of the spark away from the wires. This will also help you to see any cracks etc.
_________________________

03 Crown Vic LX Sport maroon 1/4 ET = 14.237, MPH = 94.80...243rwhp 284rwtq(SAE) 175,000 m
03 P71 silver 213rwhp 251rwtq 190,000 m
04 P71 Spruce Green 101,000m
04 P73 Dark Toreador 105,000m
07 P71 Arizona Beige 185,000m
11 Crown Vic LX Blue 87,000 m

Top
#50189 - 11/24/02 12:16 PM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Fred Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 03/20/02
Posts: 4160
Loc: Wakefield, Massachusetts
Does it run a lot beter now?
_________________________
1995 Mercury Grand Marquis LS HPP - 114k miles - TOTALED by Box truck in June of 2005

Current: 2008 Honda Civic SI 2-door

Top
#50190 - 11/24/02 01:12 PM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Mr_Ash Offline
Poobah

Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 5791
Loc: DuPage Co., IL
Yeppers!
_________________________

"Last of the V-8 Interceptors"

2000 Ford Crown Victoria
Deep wedgewood Blue
56,XXX Miles
Gray Cloth Interior
Goodyear GT HR's
Deluxe Wheel covers

1992 P74 (Silver/Grey 98k) ~ Totaled/Sold
1994 P71 (Black/Blue 152k) ~ Under Construction
1996 P71 (Blue/Blue 143k) ~ Totaled

Top
#50191 - 11/24/02 11:04 PM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
93_Marquis Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 11/29/00
Posts: 2277
Loc: Norwood, OH, USA
FYI: Removing the spark plug wires from either the coils or the plugs while the car is running is a VERY bad idea!! Your dealing with very high voltage...enough to do more than give you just a "Little" shock.

NEVER do this! Follow the proper test procedures for the components instead.

Ray
_________________________


Car: 2004 Mercury Marauder

Engine/Tranny: 49k and bone stock...for now wink

Top
#50192 - 11/25/02 11:08 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
lifespeed Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 1036
Loc: northern California
Ash,

17 times? You don't learn so quick.

To check for spark, you can plug a extra spark plug into each wire, and ground the plug. Starting and stopping the engine in between each plug is possibly slower, but less painful.

"Ouch. OK. Yikes! That one is good too. Owww! Not that one..."
_________________________
- Lifespeed

2004 Silver Birch Marauder
Wilwood F/R brakes, Penske shocks, Addco tubular sway bars, Metco control & Watts, 31 sp axles, Stainless Works cat-back exhaust

Top
#50193 - 11/25/02 11:32 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Buck268 Offline
Grand Poobah

Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 12123
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Chiltons has the test proceedure documented... it involves Ohm meter usage... I tested a few ohms (3 i think) out of range, so I dropped (wasted) money on accels...slight improvement over old stocks....


Edited by Buck268 (11/25/02 11:36 AM)
_________________________
Dead: 1994 Crown Vic LX/HPP... over 190,000 miles when she got totalled frown
Gone: 1996 Mustang GT 5spd, drop top, Bassani OR X-pipe, Dynomax Ultraflows, PI Cams, K&N FIPK, C&L Elbow and 75mm TB, PIAA 1700X...
Dead: 2012 Mustang V6 Performance Package, Kona Blue with MagnaFlow "Street" catback. KIA August 2012 frown

Top
#50194 - 12/15/02 10:23 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Jersey Offline
Member

Registered: 04/16/02
Posts: 217
Loc: S.Hackensack, NJ
Where are the coil packs located on a 98p71????

_________________________
Mark from Jersey.
98 p71 NYSP-Albany.
181k - Stock.

Top
#50195 - 12/15/02 10:48 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
Sepiroth Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 2822
Loc: Kouts, Indiana
On the 98 and newer vics they dont have coil packs. They have C.O.P. (coil over plug). On the intake manifold you will see 8 injectors and 8 individual spark plug coils.

Top
#50196 - 12/15/02 10:52 AM Re: Pic of my bad Coil pack
metroplex Offline
Metroplectic

Registered: 11/13/00
Posts: 49817
Loc: Motor City, USA
Yeah its called COP as 96 PI stated before. Coil on plug.

If you want to get technical, its DISCOP

Distributorless Ignition System Coil on plug
_________________________
These aren't the droids you're looking for!

Top



Moderator:  Liquid 
Who's in Chat??
Google!
Who's Online
9 registered (Crown_Vic_6, 04RauderDTR, DES, dajoyner, JJP, 2 invisible), 74 Guests and 64 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box

Email Login
EMail Login Name
Password
 New users, sign up!
Top Posters (30 Days)
Moby_Vic 215
BigMerc96 157
ponyguy 151
Ezbok58a 141
Benno 130
road_pizza 120
73vwTodd 108
a_d_a_m 103
JeffBoudah 95
BlackVic_P71 93
Featured Member
Registered: 09/11/11
Posts: 28





Copyright 2000-2013 by Crownvic.net and Steve Spaulding. All Rights Reserved.
The photographs, graphics and data contained in this Web site are the properties of the contributors, or Crownvic.net and may not be used without expressed written consent.
Crownvic.net is not affiliated with the Ford motor company.

Happily consuming the fuel saved by Prius owners!