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#629825 - 01/23/05 02:04 PM Wheel Bearing Replacement...
David Harleyson Offline
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Registered: 07/14/03
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OK, It looks like I have learned something else I didn't know on this board. Based on the SEARCHES I did, it appears that the wheel bearings on the CV's are a selaed one piece unit that is available only WITH the hub and studs!?!? I went to the trusty service manual and found info on the bearings from 91 and older. NOTHING on 92+.

SO...help me out, how does one check the "looseness" of these things? What is the torque spec on the nut? and how does one decide when to replace the assembly?

I'm getting ready to do a complete front brake job on my 98 (140500) and might as well do these too while I'm down there if I really need to. Any thoughts, links ect. would be much appreciated!
Thanks!!
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'04 Dodge 2500 crew cab Cummins/6 speed (work truck)
'05 Saturn Vue: 3.5 V6 SilverStars, Mobil 1 5w-20, Mobil 1 filter, Amsoil ATF
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#629826 - 01/23/05 02:07 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
TheIndifferent1 Offline
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If it's not turning smoothly replace it. You could probably grab the studs and move it around to see if there is any play. There is no nut on the assembly as far as I know(i've never taken the dust cover off).
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#629827 - 01/23/05 02:13 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
David Harleyson Offline
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Quote:

If it's not turning smoothly replace it. You could probably grab the studs and move it around to see if there is any play. There is no nut on the assembly as far as I know(i've never taken the dust cover off).




Neither have I, yet,....but then what holds the hub/bearing assembly on the spindle? Pressed on??
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"If you don't think you are going to like the answer, don't ask the question; because forgiveness is easier to get than permission"

'01 Harley Wide Glide: CV44mm carb, D&D pipes, 6200rpm computer, Mobil 1 V-twin, K&N filters
'04 Dodge 2500 crew cab Cummins/6 speed (work truck)
'05 Saturn Vue: 3.5 V6 SilverStars, Mobil 1 5w-20, Mobil 1 filter, Amsoil ATF
'98 CV P73: ABS/TC, P71 shocks, ENS bar endlinks, P71 ECM, 140 speedo, 180* t-stat, AWSF22C, SilverStars, Honeycomb grille, Mobil 1 5w-30, 235/60-16 Yokohama Avid V4s, 3.27 TracLock with +1 mod and F-150 "S" spring

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#629828 - 01/23/05 02:21 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Kinger87 Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
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there is a big nut, something like a 22mm.

Once removed, the bearing comes right off.
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#629829 - 01/23/05 04:50 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
David Harleyson Offline
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Quote:

there is a big nut, something like a 22mm.

Once removed, the bearing comes right off.





Anyone have any idea what the torque spec is on the nut? And does it require any Loctite? Or is it a cotter pin setup?
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'01 Harley Wide Glide: CV44mm carb, D&D pipes, 6200rpm computer, Mobil 1 V-twin, K&N filters
'04 Dodge 2500 crew cab Cummins/6 speed (work truck)
'05 Saturn Vue: 3.5 V6 SilverStars, Mobil 1 5w-20, Mobil 1 filter, Amsoil ATF
'98 CV P73: ABS/TC, P71 shocks, ENS bar endlinks, P71 ECM, 140 speedo, 180* t-stat, AWSF22C, SilverStars, Honeycomb grille, Mobil 1 5w-30, 235/60-16 Yokohama Avid V4s, 3.27 TracLock with +1 mod and F-150 "S" spring

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#629830 - 01/23/05 04:56 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Buck268 Offline
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Registered: 02/27/02
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Torque to yeild, so be sure to use a brand spanking new nut
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#629831 - 01/23/05 05:02 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
RandyK Offline
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Registered: 09/19/04
Posts: 147
Loc: Miami, Florida
Torque is 189-254ft/lbs(Chilton), no cotter pin and I use BLUE locktite on everything.

Freaked me to see no cotter pin, but the bad boy is not going anywhere at 250. If you look close, the hole in the nut is slightly oblong and the thing has not budged. YES, I marked it and checked a month later.

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#629832 - 01/23/05 06:27 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Squeek Offline
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Registered: 10/28/03
Posts: 525
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If you read the plastic cover, or any Haynes manual, you'd see that the wheel bearings are not serviceable. Replace them if you need to, but they cannot (should not?) be serviced.

I have no idea how to tell when they're bad, but I've never had to replace them on my '93 with 210k.
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#629833 - 01/23/05 08:34 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
gord_bolton Offline
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Registered: 05/06/02
Posts: 4691
Loc: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
You will hear (and feel) a bad front wheel bearing on a high speed curve. Also if you drive down an alley with buildings on both sides you will probably be able to hear the noisy bearing. If you jack up one wheel and check for play (9 and 3) and (12 and 6) you will detect any serious deterioration of the bearing. Rule out play from tierods and ball joints in your consideration.

In my own experience it has been the passenger side bearing that goes first (or only). It is a sealed bearing but the theory that I believe is that the passenger side gets salted and slushed more than the drivers side.

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#629834 - 01/23/05 09:35 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Georges93LX Offline

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Registered: 10/07/03
Posts: 1887
Loc: Owensboro, Ky.
Try this.

Quote:

If you read the plastic cover, or any Haynes manual, you'd see that the wheel bearings are not serviceable. Replace them if you need to, but they cannot (should not?) be serviced.

I have no idea how to tell when they're bad, but I've never had to replace them on my '93 with 210k.




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#629835 - 01/23/05 09:57 PM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Buck268 Offline
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Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 12123
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Box body's had the bearings in the rotor like my '91 Camaro... 92+ vics have the sealed fronts (itegral hub).
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#629836 - 01/24/05 12:08 AM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
Kinger87 Offline
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Registered: 12/15/02
Posts: 7607
Loc: Gladstone MI
Those listed in the auction won't work. The wheel bearings on these cars have the studs and everything on them. I personally wouldn't worry about them, they hardly ever fail, and at nearly 100 dollars replacement cost, its just as well.
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#629837 - 01/24/05 12:55 AM Re: Wheel Bearing Replacement...
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