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#862762 - 02/03/06 04:04 PM Gas Fill up problems
124exp Offline
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Registered: 12/20/05
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Whenever I fill up gas in my p71, it takes me 10-15 minutes to fill up my whole tank. Once I insert the nozzle in the tank and start filling up, after a few seconds it clicks off as if the tank is full.
I did some research and found out that the problem might be the oxygen not being able to escape on time and causes the pump to shut off. Therefore the problem might be in the part of the system that controls the air and vacuum to control shut off due to it being clogged and oxygen not escaping on time.

Anyone knows how to fix it or dealt with it before?

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#862763 - 02/03/06 04:11 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 07/14/05
Posts: 2037
Loc: South Carolina
check This post. It has a reference to your problem. Just scroll down some.

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#862764 - 02/03/06 04:30 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Loc: (Area of) Columbus, Ohio USA
If you put the nozzle in too far, it will trip the sensor on the nozzle and the fuel flow will stop
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#862765 - 02/03/06 04:34 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 09/16/04
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Loc: Rochester Hills, Michigan
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Whenever I fill up gas in my p71, it takes me 10-15 minutes to fill up my whole tank. Once I insert the nozzle in the tank and start filling up, after a few seconds it clicks off as if the tank is full.
I did some research and found out that the problem might be the oxygen not being able to escape on time and causes the pump to shut off. Therefore the problem might be in the part of the system that controls the air and vacuum to control shut off due to it being clogged and oxygen not escaping on time.

Anyone knows how to fix it or dealt with it before?




Yes, it's normal. Just put the nozzel in all the way like normal then pull it out about an inch and it should pump just fine untill the tank is full. It's just the sensors on the pumps are sensitive.
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#862766 - 02/03/06 04:43 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
124exp Offline
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Registered: 12/20/05
Posts: 154
Thanks for the links to that problem. I think this is it.

I tried pulling out an inch, pulling it out almost all the way, the problem still persists.

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#862767 - 02/03/06 04:57 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Loc: Rochester Hills, Michigan
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Thanks for the links to that problem. I think this is it.

I tried pulling out an inch, pulling it out almost all the way, the problem still persists.




And it's doing this at every gas station you go to? I hope you have nothing lodged in your filler neck. have you tried pumping with only a 3/4 press on the lever with is out a inch or so?
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#862768 - 02/03/06 05:01 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
Maxx Offline
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Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 263
Loc: Denver, CO.
Sorry to hijack, but I've had a lingering question regarding fuel fill ups. The most I've ever put in the car was about 15.7 gallons (with the low fuel light on.) Is this normal? Seems odd to have a 20 gallon tank and have ~4 gallons of fuel left in it when the light is on.
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#862769 - 02/03/06 05:01 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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FWIW the "oxygen" inside the fuel tank is an airborne mix of ordinary atmospheric air and non-liquid volatile hydrocarbons...at best only about a fifth of all the non-liquid gaseousness (as opposed to non-gaseous liquid gasoline) in a gas tank is composed of bonafide oxygen molecules.

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#862770 - 02/03/06 05:11 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Loc: Rochester Hills, Michigan
Quote:

Sorry to hijack, but I've had a lingering question regarding fuel fill ups. The most I've ever put in the car was about 15.7 gallons (with the low fuel light on.) Is this normal? Seems odd to have a 20 gallon tank and have ~4 gallons of fuel left in it when the light is on.




If your Vic is a 02 liek you sig states you don't have a 20 gallon tank. You have a 19 gallon.
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#862771 - 02/03/06 06:47 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 04/14/03
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Loc: (Area of) Columbus, Ohio USA
Quote:

Quote:

Sorry to hijack, but I've had a lingering question regarding fuel fill ups. The most I've ever put in the car was about 15.7 gallons (with the low fuel light on.) Is this normal? Seems odd to have a 20 gallon tank and have ~4 gallons of fuel left in it when the light is on.




If your Vic is a 02 liek you sig states you don't have a 20 gallon tank. You have a 19 gallon.




Beat me to it.
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2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
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#862772 - 02/03/06 07:19 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 4991
Loc: Chicagoland
Quote:

Quote:

Sorry to hijack, but I've had a lingering question regarding fuel fill ups. The most I've ever put in the car was about 15.7 gallons (with the low fuel light on.) Is this normal? Seems odd to have a 20 gallon tank and have ~4 gallons of fuel left in it when the light is on.




If your Vic is a 02 liek you sig states you don't have a 20 gallon tank. You have a 19 gallon.




Despite the error regarding tank capacity, yes this is normal. It was designed that way to give you warning before you run out of fuel.

Keep in mind, that not every part of the country has a gas station every half mile. Where my friend lives for instance, there are only two stations in town (across the street from each other) and neither is 24 hours.
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#862773 - 02/03/06 07:33 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 775
Loc: Cheyenne, WY
Also there is roughly 2 gallons you will never get to use since the pump pick-up can't get to it and the tank is not completely full after the first click of the nozzle.

My understanding of the light is that it comes on when you have 10%-15% capacity left
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#862774 - 02/03/06 07:44 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 15101
Loc: (Area of) Columbus, Ohio USA
There was a thread I started entitled "Low Fuel light" but it got wiped out when the server took a dump.
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1997 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (12-23-02 to 11-21-07)
2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (7-11-07 to 8-31-13)
2013 Ford Taurus Limited (8-31-13 to Present)

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#862775 - 02/03/06 08:27 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 12/20/05
Posts: 154
Yup. Every gas station. That's why I hold the trigger down only 1/4 of the way. It pumps really slow then, but steadily. Takes a good 10-15 minutes.

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#862776 - 02/04/06 08:43 PM Re: Gas Fill up problems
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Registered: 06/13/02
Posts: 5363
Loc: Saskatoon, Sk. Canada
your problem is the evap canister on the bottom of your trunk.

-remove the two rear nuts that hold it to the trunk
-gently pull down
-black hose should connect to a valve on the passenger side of the canister.
-remove hose, AND the valve (disconnect electrical connections)
-blow out the hose and valve thoroughly.
-reverse the process to re-assemble.

The problem is the valve gets full of gravel and hold it open when it should be closed. The local PD had this problem for years, until finally they went through the entire car, and found that to be the problem.

Doing this job is about 15 minutes, and you can fill full speed after that.
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