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#1008430 - 08/21/06 01:49 PM NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
silverfrost1 Offline
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Registered: 04/19/06
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Loc: Connecticut
Today it is reported that the Charger has Muscle for NYPD, supplanting the CV, but not 100%. Check out the pic.

NYPD is going for diversity in police packages:

$17,000 for an Impala
$19,000 for a CV
$20,511 for a Charger Hemi

Add $10,000 for police equipment and installation, about on level with what the Pentagon pays for a toilet seat.
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#1008431 - 08/21/06 02:36 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
jared Offline
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Registered: 02/20/06
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Loc: San Jose ,CA
“They don’t seem appropriate as urban police cars,” Dr. Alpert said of the Chargers. “They’re not easy to get in and out of; its difficult to get prisoners in and out of them as well. And the engine, it’s just overkill.” Dr. Alpert said that police pursuits often result in crashes that lead to injury or death for officers and civilians.

This couldnt be more true, finally someone looking past the fact that it has a hemi v-8

we'll see if they can outlive the vic's ,outpower cv's ..yea , last longer ... no way


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#1008432 - 08/21/06 03:01 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
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Registered: 11/13/00
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Loc: Motor City, USA
He's a Doctor, so he must be right!

A few Charger + Panther owners seem to think the Charger has more legroom than the Panther. They aren't just looking at a picture and making biased comments - they actually have both a Panther and a Charger R/T.

And it isn't $20,000 for a Charger 5.7 police package, the $20,000 price is for the V6! The Charger 5.7 police package is close to $30,000 and most PDs are NOT buying them for low speed city patrol.

FYI My Dodge Aries K-Car had more driver leg/shoulder/headroom than my Crown Vic.
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#1008433 - 08/21/06 03:04 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
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Registered: 01/27/02
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Loc: Central Florida
The back seat fits the definition of "cruel and unusual punishment." (It's not the legroom so much as the headroom.)

The Charger is unconstitutional!
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#1008434 - 08/21/06 04:06 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
CVCobraLX27 Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 1456
Loc: New York, New York
It has more legroom, but the headroom and the width make you feel cramped in a normal Charger.
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#1008435 - 08/21/06 04:24 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Hill185 Offline

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Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 1578
Loc: Boston, Mass.
One more reason the Charger is German junk.
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#1008436 - 08/21/06 06:00 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
metroplex Offline
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So how is the driver legroom, shoulder room, and head room? If my Dodge K car had more room than the Crown Vic, the Charger can't be that bad.
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#1008437 - 08/21/06 10:39 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Moby_Vic Offline

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FWD cars tend to have more interior room. It's an advantage of a transverse-mounted engine and lack of a driveshaft tunnel.
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#1008438 - 08/21/06 11:41 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Taxman100 Offline

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Registered: 04/17/04
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Loc: Ohio
Charger is not German junk - it is all North American junk!
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#1008439 - 08/21/06 11:50 PM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Hill185 Offline

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Registered: 11/09/02
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Loc: Boston, Mass.
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Charger is not German junk - it is all North American junk!





E-class platform/Mercedes trans, close enough to German for

me.
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#1008440 - 08/22/06 12:04 AM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
j-dawg Offline
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Registered: 01/01/06
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we'll see if they can outlive the vic's ,outpower cv's ..yea , last longer ... no way





I have no experience in this field, so this is an honest question, but...

how much do we really need Crown Vics in our fleets? Reliability has proven itself to be a strong point--but the same is true of any number of other, otherwise superior cars that would reduce gas costs drastically.

How much is a full frame and V8, RWD necessary for a police force? Europeans use small, FWD cars for their police forces--what makes the US forces more in need of such huge things?

Passenger space in the back of the car shouldn't be an issue, as the only people going in there will be criminals who are already handcuffed and probably decidedly uncomfortable.

So why do we need barges to patrol our streets? I'm not trying to say we shouldn't, or advocate the use of smaller, more modern cars, it's just that I don't really understand why we use these things.

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#1008441 - 08/22/06 12:25 AM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
P71_CrownVic Offline
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Registered: 11/19/04
Posts: 4169
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“They don’t seem appropriate as urban police cars,” Dr. Alpert said of the Chargers. “They’re not easy to get in and out of; its difficult to get prisoners in and out of them as well. And the engine, it’s just overkill.” Dr. Alpert said that police pursuits often result in crashes that lead to injury or death for officers and civilians.

This couldnt be more true, finally someone looking past the fact that it has a hemi v-8

we'll see if they can outlive the vic's ,outpower cv's ..yea , last longer ... no way






The HEMI will also get much worse gas mileage than the CV.
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#1008442 - 08/22/06 12:27 AM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
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Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 3574
Loc: Ohio
Quote:

Quote:

Charger is not German junk - it is all North American junk!





E-class platform/Mercedes trans, close enough to German for

me.





Nope - North American platform with a rear suspension design based off of the previous generation E-class. There is nothing else in common with an E-class, even an old one.

I will grant you if you step up to a Hemi, you get a German designed transmission. Everyone with the V-6 has to make due with a crappy Chrysler transmission.

I know - I've replaced two of them in my old 2000 Intrepid R/T - worst car I ever owned.
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#1008443 - 08/22/06 12:47 AM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Ryan Offline

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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 14652
Loc: MA
The headroom isnt too bad in the front of a charger. But the friggin blindspots suck.

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#1008444 - 08/22/06 01:28 AM Re: NYPD adds Charger to CV fleet
Hill185 Offline

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Registered: 11/09/02
Posts: 1578
Loc: Boston, Mass.
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Charger is not German junk - it is all North American junk!





E-class platform/Mercedes trans, close enough to German for

me.





Nope - North American platform with a rear suspension design based off of the previous generation E-class. There is nothing else in common with an E-class, even an old one.

I will grant you if you step up to a Hemi, you get a German designed transmission. Everyone with the V-6 has to make due with a crappy Chrysler transmission.

I know - I've replaced two of them in my old 2000 Intrepid R/T - worst car I ever owned.




^^^ ah, i knew I read somthing about the e-class w/ these

cars.
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