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#1335022 - 11/30/07 06:31 AM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Timmn1]
Ciffer Offline
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great info timmn1, i'll have to go out and find a 96 cluster at a salvage yard next year.

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#1335035 - 11/30/07 08:29 AM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Ciffer]
Timmn1 Offline
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After doing the mod, and driving around with it, I found that the "reaction time" for the gauge is a bit slow, but it's a heck of a lot better than the fake gauge I had.
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#1335036 - 11/30/07 08:37 AM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Ciffer]
Timmn1 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Ciffer
great info timmn1, i'll have to go out and find a 96 cluster at a salvage yard next year.


Next year? We're from the Midwest, when do we let a little cold and snow stop us from doing anything?
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#1335469 - 11/30/07 07:40 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Timmn1]
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Thank you, drock and Timm.

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#1335588 - 11/30/07 10:35 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: jmlock]
Timmn1 Offline
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You are Welcome, hopefully, the next person who tries this will find all of this helpful.
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#1335612 - 11/30/07 10:54 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Timmn1]
Ciffer Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Timmn1
 Originally Posted By: Ciffer
great info timmn1, i'll have to go out and find a 96 cluster at a salvage yard next year.


Next year? We're from the Midwest, when do we let a little cold and snow stop us from doing anything?


i broke my foot and don't feel like hobbling around salvage yards checking VINs, it isn't a cold issue. besides my car is parked in someone else's garage for the winter.

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#1335882 - 12/01/07 12:37 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Timmn1]
Embassy Offline


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 Originally Posted By: Timmn1
Both of mine were '97 clusters, the only way to make this mod work with a '97 cluster, is to use a temp/oil guage assembly from a '96 cluster. The oil gauge in the '97 (and probably newer) can't be used for this mod.

The '96 and the '97 clusters are identical with the exceptions of the oil guage and the resistor. To remove the assembly, you have to remove the 4 gold screws at the top of the cluster, and the other 4 at the very bottom. This will allow you to remove the "glass" and the black plastic frame surrounding the gauges. This will expose the gauge assemblies. Just grab the temp/oil guage assembly, and gently pull, it will unplug from the cluster.

The '96 gauge assembly will plug right into the '97 cluster, and since there is no resistor, you don't have to jump anything. I changed the gauge assembly without removing the cluster from the car.

Once you have done that, the only thing that remains is to change the sending unit. I recommend the Motorcraft SW2433, harder to get, but easier to install. The Standard part number is PS243, GP Sorensen is OPS134.


Excellent information. Looks like I'll be pulling two '96 instrument clusters the next time I'm at the salvage yard.

This information should be added to the BOK section.
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#1335957 - 12/01/07 02:00 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Embassy]
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I'm sure dRock will have a write up done soon.

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#1336098 - 12/01/07 05:44 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Bobert2647]
Ciffer Offline
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TCCoA has an article on the oil pressure gauge, but does not mention anything about the 97+ gauges, might have never changed from the from the -96 style for the MN12/FN10s.

last article on the page
http://www.tccoa.com/articles/engine/index.html#


Edited by Ciffer (12/01/07 05:45 PM)

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#1356391 - 12/29/07 12:01 AM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Ciffer]
Timmn1 Offline
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Just thought I'd update this, I've put about 3000 miles on since I did the mod, and it's working like a charm. The only real complaint is that the "response time" for the gauge is a bit slow, but other than that minor complaint, I'm happy!
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#1363766 - 01/07/08 05:41 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Timmn1]
Ciffer Offline
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cool, i am planning to do this mod next spring

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#1381416 - 01/28/08 05:14 AM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: Ciffer]
K-9Vic Offline

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Great information, I need to install this for my oil pressure gauge I just installed. The factory sending unit just pegs the gauge as it is the dummy sender, I will go ahead and order the Motorcraft SW2433. Then I will have a real oil pressure gauge on my A-Pillar.
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#1381687 - 01/28/08 02:18 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: K-9Vic]
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^^^ Are there any pics of the new ride yet?

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#1383523 - 01/30/08 01:35 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: jmlock]
K-9Vic Offline

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 Originally Posted By: jmlock
^^^ Are there any pics of the new ride yet?


Yes, posted this in the lounge
https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbth...266#Post1381266
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#1410242 - 02/28/08 07:24 PM Re: functional oil pressure gauge mod [Re: K-9Vic]
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Guys,

I am assuming that this will work on my 2001. To confirm I just need to find a 1996 movment? (and the sender of course)

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