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#1303931 - 10/19/07 12:48 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
tspa Offline
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Stainless Works tailpipes only & without tips package arrived today.
Box is 18"x19"x50" & 42lbs and just under $40 for S&H.

Still looking for a good muffler shop that can weld stainless properly within 4hrs drive of Philly. Any suggestions?

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#1340665 - 12/07/07 03:24 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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OK, an update...

Just received the OEM (Megs) Marauder tips today from Wes at Innovative Interceptors today. I wanted the "delete tips" but they are no longer availiable.

I also have an appointment for tomorrow at Mufflex in Trenton, NJ for installing the remainder of the exhaust.

Links for pics and a video will be posted sometime soon once it is finished.

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#1343454 - 12/11/07 12:33 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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Well, I settled on Mufflex in Trenton, NJ for the installation. They seemed to be highly regarded on various car forums.

I had purchased Magnaflow 5x8x24 from Chris at ADTR (BTW, great price & delivery), but they were too long to work with the Stainless Works tail pipes . So, we exchanged them with Magnaflow 5x8x18 onsite. I should have bought 5x11x22 instead, they may have actually fit, none were on hand though at Mufflex.

The tips came from Wes @ Innovative Interceptors , great service and product also! The tips had to be stretched from 2-1/4 to 2-1/2 to fit the pipes.

You can see pics from the installation here . The tail pipes were NOT a direct fit as I ordered them. Unsure why not, but the pipes required an extra bend just before the tips, near the frame.

I'll try to get a video clip & better pics in the near future.

Very quite at idle, inside & outside of the car. Gets louder as more throttle is applied.
A little louder than what I wanted, mostly in regards to the drone around 40-50 mph. The drone pitch changes if I turn off the OD.
Now I'm considering adding exhaust wrap from the mufflers to the tail pipes in effort to lower the cabin drone.

Feel free to contact me directly with any specific questions at [email protected]


Edited by tspa (12/11/07 12:38 PM)
Edit Reason: added info

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#1343460 - 12/11/07 12:40 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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The drone most likely cannot be heard outside the car. My Walker Quiet-Flow mufflers sound just as loud as my Ultra-Flo (same design as Magnaflow) mufflers from the inside, however I recently drove under a tunnel and downshifted to hear the echoing. All I heard was wind and road noise and something buzzing that remotely sounded like my engine. But the interior drone is quite ferocious.

In the same tunnel with my GT, the exhaust and engine sound echoing off the walls is unmistakable.
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#1343480 - 12/11/07 01:06 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: metroplex]
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I went under a short tunnel, it was louder than I thought they would be. I have not heard my own car yet from the outside, such as a drive by.
There is no mistaking the drone inside though! My poor daughter in the back seat too! I feel guilty driving as it is with her. Sounds great from the inside otherwise.

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#1343496 - 12/11/07 01:42 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: metroplex]
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 Originally Posted By: metroplex
The drone most likely cannot be heard outside the car. ..... But the interior drone is quite ferocious.


What have you done to reduce the drone?

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#1343637 - 12/11/07 04:44 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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That install looks good. Man that is one clean bellhousing for your trans. Have you had it out and cleaned recently?
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#1343647 - 12/11/07 04:56 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: 98VicP71]
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LOL--So clean because it was replaced on Nov. 26th. Just ignore the rest of the filth. Lot of salt from recent snow.

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#1349639 - 12/19/07 01:16 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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Well folks, looks like I may have found an answer to my drone problem. Read about it here .

I'm going to alter mine in the same manner. I'll get video of the car for a before & after comparison.

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#1359264 - 01/02/08 01:47 AM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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what ever happened to this group buy attempt?
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#1359334 - 01/02/08 08:41 AM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: gixxer1127]
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^^^ Sig alert. Pic Big, Surge from Canada will be deleting it shortly...

Nothing happened with the group buy. You are encouraged to call Borla and ask for the kit however. Most I suspect will never do this. (toll free number)

Side Note: Damn nice mods. 160 tstat is a bit much. Engine will wear much faster at that temp IMHO.

Tell me about your heads. Got TimeSlip??





Edited by luv-my-2002-p71 (01/02/08 08:43 AM)
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#1359389 - 01/02/08 10:54 AM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: luv-my-2002-p71]
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I was hoping to have the Stainless Works tail pipes from a Marauder to be done as a kit by them for pre-2003 cars.

Unfortunately, the installer said that they needed to be modified to fit. Did I get unusual parts, as in flukes, that they didn't fit right in? Or did the installer have a bad day?
I don't know. I'm sure most folks would not like to have to modify parts that were sold as a kit. The costs were very reasonable where I got mine done at though.

I'm pretty satisfied with the result. Would I do it again?
Maybe, but I should have been patient and encouraged Borla to sell their kit that already fits.

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#1401349 - 02/19/08 11:21 AM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: tspa]
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Sad news from Borla in an email response today...

Unfortunately, once a system is discontinued we do not make it anymore. I checked and we dont even have the fixtures.

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#1401641 - 02/19/08 06:04 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: metroplex]
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does anybody know if anyone makes an bolt on 2.5" diameter H-Pipe for 98-02 besides the police one on NAPAs website that is obvioulsy smaller then i want.
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#1401644 - 02/19/08 06:11 PM Re: Borla cat-back: available... caveat inside! [Re: gear_head199]
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and what are the odds of trying this again because my and a couple of my buddies can call and just inquire about one
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