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#1376996 - 01/23/08 01:46 PM Power Steering pump leaking fluid
2008MGM Offline
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Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 266
Loc: Richmond, VA
Hi all,

I have noticed recently that the power steering pump reservoir is losing fluid, and the main hose underneath is all wet/dirty looking. I also notice that the fluid will leave spots on the ground underneath. I have searched power steering pump in the 5.0/5.8L archives, but could not find much info.

Does anyone have much experience with the power steering pump kits at places like Autozone? Are they worth spending the $15.00 on? It appears that the pump is working correctly (aka I can see the fluid physically moving in the reservoir when the car is started and there are no noises coming from the pump area). I am thinking that maybe one of the o-ring seals or something has failed causing the fluid loss. Also, is this a pretty easy task to remove the power steering pump hose/seals and replace? Thanks guys.

-Jason
5.0L 1989 Colony Park 302.
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#1377437 - 01/23/08 08:11 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: 2008MGM]
mikeri Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 808
I am All Pro in the leaking 1989 power steering position. Mine leaked just like yours for ....6 years maybe. Just kept filling it up. I would try some Barr's leak transmission fix first. It may seal up the resevoir. There are many brands of course, but I had good luck with the above. I finally swapped out the p/s pump when the steer gear box leak got unwieldy. So I did both at the same time. Keep the fluid up and you should have no running problems, other than spots on the driveway. I went through many a card board box. I never did buy the kit and try to reseal.

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#1377555 - 01/23/08 09:59 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: 2008MGM]
1991MGM Offline
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Registered: 01/19/08
Posts: 7
A noisy and/or leaking Ford power steering pump or box...
... absolutely unheard of!!! Besides a 1991 Grand Marquis I have a 1987 F150 so I am familiar with the Ford power steering woes. I did use Lucas power steering leak stop with success on the truck (it eventually took 2 bottles but the leak at the steering box has almost entirely stopped). As long as you keep the fluid level at the correct level no real problems should occur. My Grand Marquis only has 36,000 miles on it so there are no steering issues yet (but I'm sure it's only a matter of time). At least the Fords give you plenty of forewarning as to power steering issues unlike other makes that die entirely out of the blue.

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#1378418 - 01/24/08 08:53 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: 1991MGM]
mikeri Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 808
LMAO. Really. I recently posted that my other 89 just started a very small leak at the P/S pump, just as it rolled over 100k, almost like the odo was linked to the p/s pump.......BTW, I replaced the original stear box at 160, IIRC, and the rebuilt at 240k on the other, which means the original P/S pump lasted to 240k also.

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#1378425 - 01/24/08 09:03 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: mikeri]
mikeri Offline
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Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 808
BTW, for those 6 years of just refilling, I used Walmart brand type F, which for years was dirt cheap, and the pump lasted until 240k, and it would still be on the car if the stear gear didn't let go.

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#1378989 - 01/25/08 01:04 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: mikeri]
AOD Offline


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Registered: 12/06/00
Posts: 11509
Loc: Asheville, North Carolina
My car leaks at the resevoir too...but only if I keep it filled. ;\) I usually run it a little low until the pump starts groaning loudly, then I add a bit.

I need to replace it...just haven't gotten to it yet.
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#1379018 - 01/25/08 01:49 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: AOD]
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Registered: 11/05/07
Posts: 559
Mine does that too...which reminds me...I really need to refill it...
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#1379391 - 01/25/08 09:02 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: hobbie2k]
TheBlunderbuss Offline
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Registered: 02/24/06
Posts: 1506
Loc: CHAMPAIGN, IL
Mine never consumes fluid.
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#1379589 - 01/26/08 12:55 AM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: TheBlunderbuss]
JDT Offline
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Registered: 03/11/07
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Loc: milwaukee, wisconsin
mine used to leak . untill i started using trans fluid in it ( recomended by ford i guess). then all groaning and leaking stoped.
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#1380328 - 01/26/08 07:06 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: JDT]
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Is that true? If it is I might have to try it...
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#1380361 - 01/26/08 07:50 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: hobbie2k]
btsom Offline
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Registered: 12/20/01
Posts: 9570
Loc: Oklahoma,America
On both an 89 and a 91, the leaks I had were the return hose. Tightening the hose clamps did no good, finally replaced the hose and everything was dry after that. As windy as it is in there, drops of fluid could be blown anywhere after they separate from the low point.
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#1380382 - 01/26/08 08:28 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: btsom]
SteveS Offline
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I recently replaced both hoses on the red box. They are available from NAPA.
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#1380420 - 01/26/08 09:24 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: SteveS]
TheBlunderbuss Offline
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Registered: 02/24/06
Posts: 1506
Loc: CHAMPAIGN, IL
Oh shoot. Forgot to mention mine seemed to be leaking at some point, but it was a slow leak.
The hoses were saturated with fluid.
The replacement hoses still showed thread when I tightened them down. Not to worry -- the o-ring at the tip of the fitting ensures a seal. Seeing thread is ok.
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#1380736 - 01/27/08 10:49 AM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: TheBlunderbuss]
kyle91LTDcv Offline

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Registered: 06/23/07
Posts: 773
Loc: Allentown, PA
mine doesnt leak, but it is loud sometimes. has a kind of whining sound to it if u turn the wheel with the car not moving. ive never really looked closely at the powerstearing system, is there a way to change the fluid?
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#1380996 - 01/27/08 06:09 PM Re: Power Steering pump leaking fluid [Re: kyle91LTDcv]
TheBlunderbuss Offline
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Registered: 02/24/06
Posts: 1506
Loc: CHAMPAIGN, IL
Detach the return hose from the reservoir, place in bucket, turn on engine, pour new fluid until old fluid is gone, moving steering wheel to each stop 5 times.
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