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#1350179 - 12/20/07 01:18 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Gordonfan24]
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some awesome info there. i am going to start the modding right after christmas. already have the stuff to change the exhaust. now i need the ported plenum...question though, is the PI intake a direct swap? no adapters and such
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#1386773 - 02/03/08 09:37 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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Thanks, this is really going to help me out.
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#1404657 - 02/22/08 09:00 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Mr_Dyxi]
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Here's an interesting subject, what if you have a 2004MY Civilian Vic and wanted the ziptube and MM airbox. Would a 2004 CVPI computer work well with the MM airbox for they both have the 80mm MAF. Just saying.

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#1404675 - 02/22/08 09:28 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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only the 04 CVPI got the 80MM MAF. the civi models still had the 70MM MAF.
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#1404853 - 02/23/08 04:19 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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 Originally Posted By: Cliff
Here's an interesting subject, what if you have a 2004MY Civilian Vic and wanted the ziptube and MM airbox. Would a 2004 CVPI computer work well with the MM airbox for they both have the 80mm MAF. Just saying.


No. The 04+ CVPI MAF has a different air transfer function than the Marauder 80mm MAF.
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#1412124 - 03/01/08 10:15 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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Excellent write up... but a couple of question? What are the average HP and torque gains i can expect to see from installing and MZT over stock motor? Is there a direct correlation with an MZT and increased in MPG?

Thanks
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#1425752 - 03/17/08 03:05 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Telshy]
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What I read probably 15-20 hp at the wheels, torque I dunno. Mileage should be slightly better by 2-4 mpg since it's tuned.

Anyway, what's with the 2005+ resinated ziptube used in civilian models? Does it help with the engine flow?

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#1425756 - 03/17/08 03:19 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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The 05+ tube resonators is strictly to reduce engine intake tract noise.

05 retail models, at least the early ones, had a hydrocarbon filter in the tube as well.
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#1425758 - 03/17/08 03:51 AM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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So the 05+ civi ziptube doesn't improve the airflow much?

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#1426134 - 03/17/08 05:59 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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 Originally Posted By: Cliff
So the 05+ civi ziptube doesn't improve the airflow much?


No, it's virtually the same as the 04 tube, just minus one vac line opening.

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#1426229 - 03/17/08 07:52 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Bobert2647]
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Well, the 05+ retail tube is straighter than the '96-'04 tubes (exc 04 CVPI) and is designed to work with a 80mm MAF outlet (even though stwock maf is still 70mm) It looks like the a combo of the 04 and 06 CVPI tubes, but with the large resonators. If you want a straighter tube, just use the 04 CVPI tube as it has no resonators, is less expensive, and has the IAC port still to use on -04s

https://www.crownvic.net/drock96marquis/ziptube.htm
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#1428006 - 03/19/08 07:00 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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Oh and one thing reguarding MM 80mm vs 04 PI's, Doesn't BOC carry MAF harnesses that could fit? If so I can get 04 PI airbox, ziptube and 04 P71 Computer...in case I get a 03-04MY.

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#1445246 - 04/08/08 07:23 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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Seems like this car will be harder to mod than my fox. What is a zip tube by the way?
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#1445389 - 04/08/08 10:11 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: JaxRhapsody]
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 Originally Posted By: JaxRhapsody
Seems like this car will be harder to mod than my fox. What is a zip tube by the way?


This:

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#1446207 - 04/09/08 11:04 PM Re: The "MZT" and some popular bolt-ons [Re: Cliff]
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 Originally Posted By: Cliff
Oh and one thing reguarding MM 80mm vs 04 PI's, Doesn't BOC carry MAF harnesses that could fit? If so I can get 04 PI airbox, ziptube and 04 P71 Computer...in case I get a 03-04MY.

No, you can't use an 04 PCM in your 03 unless you also use an 04 transmission! The planetary ring was revised changing the OSS output.
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