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#1528088 - 07/29/08 01:06 PM front sway bar endlinks
Martin Am. Offline
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MY car has been making a ratting noise since I bought it, I've tracked it down to the endlinks on the front sway bar. Where the bar connects to the links the bar sits above the nut and not flush with it, which inturn causes it to bounce up and down when I hit bumps causing the metal on metal clanking which annoys the heck out of me. Do these endlinks require a bushing between the nut and bar? Or do I have the wrong endlinks or something possibly, because the person I bought it from had them replaced, the bar sits a good half inch above the nut, maybe abit more on each side. This is for a 98 p71. Thanks in advance, also whomever put them on greased up that connection trying to avoid so much noise I'm guessing as it is covered in a ton of grease. Do the end links take 2 nuts one above and below the bar? To keep it inplace or what? This is really annoying me now ><


Edited by Martin Am. (07/29/08 01:06 PM)
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#1528238 - 07/29/08 04:37 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Martin Am.]
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Sounds kinda rigged up I am thinking, especially if the car was wrecked per your other post on bodywork. The lotsa grease part sounds like the previous owner may have been trying to keep things quiet.

You need to compare what you have with a good known application.

Here are parts numbers for the swaybars/endlink you can also use to check online OEM parts sources. May want to check the For Sale on cvnet for cars being parted out for a complete front swaybar/endlink setup.
http://www.p71interceptor.com/suspension/swaybars/front/partnumbers.html
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#1528282 - 07/29/08 05:23 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Blue95]
Bangster Offline

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Yours doesn't look like this?:



Those are from my 00 Grand Marquis (I am pretty sure, since all my other cars are pretty much cleaner underneath than most peoples painted surfaces). They have ball and socket joints, not bushings, however I have seen repair/replacement ones with them I guess, and perhaps ones that go from the lower arm.
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#1528309 - 07/29/08 05:51 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Bangster]
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Sounds like you have the ball and socket both ends end link, and they couldn't tighten up the nut because the ball end spun. On my other car with this style of end link, I had someone on the other side put the bar in a bind with a jack and a crow bar so that the ball stud wouldn't spin and I could tighten it up.
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#1528324 - 07/29/08 06:20 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Bangster]
Martin Am. Offline
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The top end of mine looks the same, the lower end where they connect does not. My bar simply slides onto the bolt and there is a single nut below it as if to only keep it from sliding off, and it is as tight as it can go because the nut is at the end of the thread on the end link. I'll try to get a pic asap as I don't own a digi cam.
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#1528778 - 07/30/08 10:02 AM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Martin Am.]
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 Originally Posted By: Martin Am.

The top end of mine looks the same, the lower end where they connect does not. My bar simply slides onto the bolt and there is a single nut below it as if to only keep it from sliding off, and it is as tight as it can go because the nut is at the end of the thread on the end link. I'll try to get a pic asap as I don't own a digi cam.

If there is no ball socket on the bottom it is not OEM, or the correct replacement.

Replace it. The link Blue95 provided has the part numbers.
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#1531304 - 08/02/08 11:13 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: dRock96Marquis]
Martin Am. Offline
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Yeah dRock it doesn't even look like the oem, it lacks the ball socket on the bottom, holy ass that might be whats giving me such a sloppy feeling in the front end. All that play in the bar \:\(

Also, does anyone know where I can get them decently priced. I don't want to buy cheap as I can get because I want quality but my wallet cannot support that atm, thanks again fellas for another issue solved.


Edited by Martin Am. (08/02/08 11:18 PM)
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#1531360 - 08/03/08 12:53 AM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Martin Am.]
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If your local autoparts store has "MOOG" or "TRW" branded endlinks, those are suitable lower-cost replacements (TRW is actually the OEM for the factory part as well)
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#1531368 - 08/03/08 01:23 AM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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Either way you are looking at 30-45 bucks a piece, pretty pricey. Pretty painful to replace three sets of those (I converted my 89 Cougar to 93+ Mark VIII spindles to upgrade the brakes, I had just replaced the different style end links on the 89, and I replaced them on my 97 too).
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#1533236 - 08/05/08 09:14 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Bangster]
Martin Am. Offline
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Loc: Concord, NC

Are Lemforder brand end links any good? Atleast until I have cash for a set of nice ones? They are 32 a piece and are the lowest I can find besides 45 a piece. I would get something better if I could afford it atm. Let me know, and thanks.
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#1534611 - 08/07/08 07:53 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Martin Am.]
Martin Am. Offline
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Loc: Concord, NC
Broke down and bought a set of moog ay advance for 57 a pop \:\(

Only issue was getting that bottom nut off as the damn thing spun on me, finally figured out to pull down hard on it and turn the nut with a ratchet at the same time, also for what its worth the moog have a small star socket hole in the end of the bolt to prevent that turning when needed to be removed. All in all the car handles a lot better and I don't hear that damn rattling noise anymore. Only issue now is a SLIGHT squeak which I think was the one I had before that I blamed on the bearings(which I just checked and had no play at all and all is fine). Though I think the squeak I hear is my rotors since I probably got some dirt or dust on them during all this.

Anyhow, thanks for the pointers and info guys, really appreciate it.

Also, those Moog are like heavy duty compared to the puny ones my car had before. Which they did have the bottom spindle, but it had been who knows how long since they got destroyed and fell off, the entire rubber/spindle part.
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#1534617 - 08/07/08 08:04 PM Re: front sway bar endlinks [Re: Martin Am.]
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Glad you got them replaced and it all went relatively well!
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