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#1599656 - 10/31/08 02:49 PM Lifters ticking.
Spook Offline
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Hey all, after my oil change I noticed a slight ticking. Sounds like lifters. I used some Lucas treatment and 10W 40 weight oil. It's not real loud and some people can't even hear it. My question is this. Is it normal? Or, what should I do? Would hate to redo an oil change...lol

Also, if it is the lifters, I hear roller rockers are good. How bad of an install?

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#1599666 - 10/31/08 03:00 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
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What do you drive? Box's lifters are easily adjustable but I don't know about the modulars'. I'm sure they are somehow, maybe you shim them or something.
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#1599678 - 10/31/08 03:08 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Crownvicman289]
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Its injector tick, and i think you should be running 5W-20, unless the 2v is different than the 4v in oil requirement wise.
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#1599693 - 10/31/08 03:23 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: 04RauderDTR]
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You have a somewhat common complaint. I ignore the tick. It's been doin it off and on for 6 years now so.. More so right after an oil change too.- Not sure why?

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#1599730 - 10/31/08 04:09 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Mileaway]
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he has a 99 P71
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#1599854 - 10/31/08 06:39 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: 04RauderDTR]
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Thanks guys. I will definitely put the info in. Man, I need a pic!! OK, about the 2v and 4v, not sure what you mean by that. Now, in the winter, you want thinner weight oil right? Do you all let your car warm up before you go. I have been. When I had a TT ZX, I always did. Also, you guys are awesome in responding. Thanks.

Spook

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#1600634 - 11/01/08 01:09 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
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I see...a 99. Cool. I do let it warm up due to somewhat high idling. Maybe 2 min is all. The rear end will clunk if I put it in reverse without letting it idle some. Might be normal. Might be the rear u-joint ? IDK. Keeps going and snd going though. Just have to baby ir a little sometimes like the cold startup. The mechanics and tire/oil/lube guys just jump in and put it in gear before the idle comes dowm..period. Can't possibly make them understand the quirks of a Vic so..forgetaboutit. \:\)
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#1600778 - 11/01/08 04:44 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Mileaway]
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Put a new Motorcraft filter in. Some filters have inferior anti-drainback valves. Even the Motorcraft units can be defective as well.
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#1601139 - 11/01/08 10:56 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: mrbear5300]
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You should be using 5w-30. You can use 10w-30 if it doesn't touch freezing, but seeing as you are in WV use 5w-30.




The injectors tick normally, but it should not be audible with the hood closed.
If the sound is almost like a sewing machine and matches engine rpm your timing chain guides may be shot. The debris can actually clog the oil pickup, dropping oil pressure and killing the engine.
Try to pinpoint the noise better.
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#1601395 - 11/02/08 09:38 AM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: dRock96Marquis]
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DUMP THE OIL!!!!!!!!!

10w-40 is a total waste of 0.5 MPG and a waste period. On top of lucas, im sure you have a 20w-50 mixture now. There is nothing gained by using it in a modern engine. If you have winter in your area, dump it and go with 5w-20 or 5w-30, whichever will make you sleep better. Don;t get caught up in the 20 vs 30 debate as ford has approved both for your engine. Use what you want to.

Also you need to run a motorcraft FL-820s or a Wix 51372. Other filters have crappy rubber ADV that will cause a tick on startup.

The 4.6's are noisy on startup, all mine are slightly more audiable when cold and every one I have ever owned made some kind of noise. If is not very noticable but I can tell.
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#1601420 - 11/02/08 10:21 AM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Fordiesel69]
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Mine ticks...always has, ever since I got it. Everyone keeps asking if it's lifter tick and if I should have it checked. I tell them it's my injectors, and that their Hondas do it too. They would just need to put an actual muffler on the exhaust to hear it first. All OHC engines, the 4.6 included, are noisy engines on startup. Once the revs come down, it's fine.
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#1601461 - 11/02/08 11:01 AM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: TheDriver959]
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you can do some serious damage running too heavy of an oil. 5w-30 for me.
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#1601570 - 11/02/08 12:40 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: BigJon]
Spook Offline
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Great info guys!! I will definitely use 5w-30 next oil change and use the motorcraft or wix filter.

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I tell them it's my injectors, and that their Hondas do it too. They would just need to put an actual muffler on the exhaust to hear it first.

Flight of the bumble bees...lol

Spook


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#1601594 - 11/02/08 01:21 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
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The 10-40w you used was too heavy of an oil and on top of that you used lucas oil treatment. People claim that it is a miracle product but all it does is thicken up your oil to hide engine noises. So on top of using 10-40w it has been thickened by the lucas so it is probably more like 20-50w like fordiesel69 says and being in WV you really need the reccomended 5-20w, so i would change the oil agian and use the reccomended weight of oil and go from there on pinpointing your ticking noise. For some reason ford seems to vary between 5-20w and 5-30w for reccomended oil weight, on my 2001 mustang gt it calls for 5-20w and my 2000 crown vic calls for 5-30w. But i checked and your car calls for 5-20w.
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#1604985 - 11/05/08 02:47 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: cfrank]
Spook Offline
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5-20w! Damn, OK. I bought one of those Haynes manuals and it calls for 10w-30 between 0 degrees F and 100+ F. For cold weather below 0 degrees F, it says 5w-30.

This is what confuses me. All these damn choices...lol

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