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#1604993 - 11/05/08 03:04 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
RF_Overlord Offline

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 Originally Posted By: Spook
This is what confuses me. All these damn choices...lol
See if this makes it more clear:

What your manual told you was correct for the year your car was made. Since then (2001, IIRC) Ford issued a TSB allowing the use of 5W-20 in many earlier motors, including yours. So the short answer is you can use 10W-30, 5W-30, or 5W-20 without worry. In your climate, 5W-30 and 5W-20 would be the recommended choices. I also agree with the posters comments ^^^ about using a Motorcraft, WIX or NAPA Gold filter.

As far as your 2V-4V question, it means 2-valve or 4-valve (per cylinder)...you have a 2-valve. The 2V is also commonly referred to as a SOHC (Single OverHead Cam) while the 4V is called a DOHC (Double OverHead Cam).


Edited by RF_Overlord (11/05/08 03:08 PM)
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#1604995 - 11/05/08 03:07 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
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I never liked those haynes manuals. Crappy photos and very vaguely written most of the time.

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#1605061 - 11/05/08 04:24 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
battyice Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Spook
Also, if it is the lifters, I hear roller rockers are good. How bad of an install?

Spook


Your engine doesn't have lifters, it has hydraulic lash adjusters and roller cam followers (which look a lot like a roller rocker). Here is a picture. The factory setup is very durable and should last a long time with proper maintenance.
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#1605345 - 11/05/08 08:21 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: battyice]
Spook Offline
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Guys, thanks so much. I'm learning mounds of information here. Next oil change, I will be using the proper stuff!!

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#1606272 - 11/06/08 07:54 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
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Spook,

If you had just put in 10w-40 all by itself, I would say wait till next oil change. However being you used lucas with it, your oil is way to thick for saftey. The wear on startup is going to be considerable. Dump it now for a lighter weight.

Running too thick of oil will allow your oil filter to run in bypass mode very frequently. This, depending on the design of the filter, can case a lot of the particulate trapped in the filter to go directly into your oil passages. If it is a cheapo filter, the material itself can collapse and then you will not even have a filter anymore. You will have a mini tin can acting as a surge tank.

I vote for dumping it out now before the weather gets cold. Your starter, batteries, fuel economy, and engine will all thank you.
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#1606699 - 11/07/08 11:05 AM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Fordiesel69]
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I noticed what I thought was injector ticking with my hood closed once and it turned out to be one of my spark plugs was a little loose...not cool! I could actually feel a heavier pulsation on the top of the coil then the rest...maybe worth a quick feel. \:\)
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#1608869 - 11/09/08 09:49 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: P71CVMAN]
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I started hearing that after I changed oil. Was using Mobil 1 5w20 and no noise, then switched to Royal Purple 5w30 and hearing tick on cold startup. Not sure if that's it or cuz of colder weather, but I'm switching back to see how she does.
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#1615353 - 11/16/08 09:10 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: moondog]
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Well, the thing is, when I started the car up at the auction place, there was no tick. Only after the oil change did it do that.

Like I said before, I just let the car warm up. I just hate to think of the damage it's doing while ticking.

Lastly, this may be a stupid question. Keeping the p71 a p71 on replacement parts, is there specific parts you need to buy? I don't want to replace stuff on the car that is less then Police Interceptor quality.

Also, I have the Flowmasters on, what is the next upgrade I should do? This is related to performance or just anything I should know. i.e. Spark plugs, wires etc.

Spook

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#1615429 - 11/16/08 10:22 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Spook]
luv-my-2002-p71 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Spook
5-20w! Damn, OK. I bought one of those Haynes manuals and it calls for 10w-30 between 0 degrees F and 100+ F. For cold weather below 0 degrees F, it says 5w-30.

This is what confuses me. All these damn choices...lol

Spook


I'd recommend 0w-20 Amsoil and a motorcraft filter. 10-40 oil is too thick. Our cars have overhead cams, the oil must be thin enough to slpash easliy on the cams. 10-40 when cold is way too thick. You are grinding cams everytime you start it.

Ticking can also be your timing chains eating into the tensioners.
How many miles?
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#1615477 - 11/16/08 10:58 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: luv-my-2002-p71]
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i get some king of ticking only when accelarating. What can that be?
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#1615514 - 11/17/08 12:00 AM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: ford05]
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^Leaky exhaust manifold/gasket?

Here is a video clip I found of really bad timing chain/tensioner noise on a 4.6 Mustang, in case someone was interested in what it will sound like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tBoYw_Pow&NR=1
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#1615834 - 11/17/08 01:41 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: ford05]
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 Originally Posted By: isatisfy2003
i get some king of ticking only when accelarating. What can that be?
That would be pinging no doubt/ different deal entirely. What octane do you use. Hows the cooling system? What's the mileage? What temp thermst?
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#1615850 - 11/17/08 02:06 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Mileaway]
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i use exxon 93(super) always. cooling system is good. it's a little dirty. 114K miles. 160 thermst.
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#1615856 - 11/17/08 02:14 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: ford05]
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Might be the thermst is too cold and the octane too high but? Maybe an expert can add some worthwhile info. here. You should not have pinging.
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#1615858 - 11/17/08 02:19 PM Re: Lifters ticking. [Re: Mileaway]
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i mean it only happens when i accelarate and not always, just sometimes. my dads 98 towncar does the same thing.
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