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#1795914 - 06/21/09 02:12 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: troyco]
hotrodjcc Offline
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 Originally Posted By: troyco
i have a question....what kind of mods need to be done to the windshield wiper housing for clearance? anyone have pics?
I believe the wiper box clearing problems is with the 5.4 dohc engine. I have not heard of this clearance problem with a 2v, but the trimming you talk about it just trimming a bit off the underside of the box
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#1795917 - 06/21/09 02:26 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: 2004_p71]
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I agree the HVAC chamber could be a problem, especially if swapping the 5.4 DOHC. The brake booster might need to be downsized as well to clear the DOHC heads. At least that's what I'm looking at.

I don't know about the wiper cowl clearance but i wish my wipers were lower. Sounds like a conflict of interest with a bigger engine, but i dont like being able to see them in the park position from inside the vehicle. Those things are going to mess up my aero-drag, man.
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#1796747 - 06/22/09 05:07 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: prodigalson]
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Nice write up!

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#1797183 - 06/23/09 09:24 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: 95crwnvic54]
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Got this off-line. Thought I would add for people who plan on getting their engines from another vehicle.

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5.4 L

The 5.4 L (5408 cc, 330 CID) V8 is a member of the Modular engine family first introduced in the redesigned 1997 Ford F-150 as a Triton V8. The 5.4 L is built in Windsor, Ontario at the Windsor Engine plant. The engine has been available in three different configurations since its 1997 introduction:

* SOHC 2-valve
* SOHC 3-valve with VCT
* DOHC 4-valve

2-valve
* 19972004 Ford F-Series, 2-valve SOHC, 260 hp (194 kW) and 350 lbft (475 Nm) ratings for 1999 and later model years
* 19972004 Ford Expedition, 2-valve SOHC, 260 hp (194 kW) and 350 lbft (475 Nm) ratings for 1999 and later model years
* 1997present Ford E-Series, 2-valve SOHC, 255 hp (190 kW) and 350 lbft (475 Nm) ratings for 1999 and later model years
* 19992004 Ford SVT Lightning, 2-valve SOHC, Supercharged, 380 hp (283 kW) and 450 lbft (610 Nm) ratings for 2001 and later model years

3-valve
* 20032005 Ford Fairmont, 3-valve SOHC, 295 hp (220 kW) and 347 lbft (470 Nm)
* 20032004 Ford Fairlane G220, 3-valve SOHC, 295 hp (220 kW) and 347 lbft (470 Nm)
* 20042008 Ford F-Series, 3-valve SOHC, 300 hp (224 kW) and 365 lbft (495 Nm)
* 2005present Ford Expedition, 3-valve SOHC, 300 hp (224 kW) and 365 lbft (495 Nm)
* 2005present Lincoln Navigator, 3-valve SOHC, 300 hp (224 kW) and 365 lbft (495 Nm)
* 20052007 Ford Fairlane G8, 3-valve SOHC, 309 hp (230 kW) and 369 lbft (500 Nm)
* 20062007 Ford Fairmont, 3-valve SOHC, 309 hp (230 kW) and 369 lbft (500 Nm)
* 2009 Ford F-Series, 3-valve SOHC, 320 hp (239 kW) and 390 lbft (529 Nm) ratings on e85 biofuel

4-valve
* 19992004 Lincoln Navigator, 4-valve DOHC, 300 hp (224 kW) and 355 lbft (481 Nm)
* 2000 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R, 4-valve DOHC, 385 hp (287 kW) and 385 lbft (522 Nm)
* 20022005 Ford Falcon XR8, 4-valve DOHC, 349 hp (260 kW) and 369 lbft (500 Nm)
* 20052006 Ford GT, 4-valve DOHC, Aluminum Block, Supercharged, 550 hp (410 kW) and 500 lbft (678 Nm)
* 2006 Ford Falcon FPV GT, 4-valve DOHC, 389 hp (290 kW) and 384 lbft (521 Nm)
* 20072009 Ford Shelby GT500, 4-valve DOHC, Supercharged, 500 hp (373 kW) and 480 lbft (651 Nm) SAE J1349 certified
* 2007 Ford Falcon FPV GT Cobra, 4-valve DOHC, 405 hp (302 kW) and 398 lbft (540 Nm)
* 2008 Ford Falcon FPV GT, 4-valve DOHC, 422 hp (315 kW) and 406.5 lbft (551 Nm)
* 2010 Ford Shelby GT500, 4-valve DOHC, Supercharged, 540 hp (403 kW) and 510 lbft (691 Nm)
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#1798827 - 06/25/09 04:07 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: Bondfreak13]
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 Originally Posted By: Bondfreak13
Some cam Ideas for the 5.4. This was posted in another thread.
http://www.modularheadshop.com/Cams.htm#2V_-_STAGE_2_-_NATURALLY_ASPIRATED_



BTW - that is the cam that Mark Chacon himself designed for his personal 5.4 Expedition.

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#1801470 - 06/29/09 08:19 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: nickmckinney]
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Is a 99 Lightning engine PI or NPI.
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#1801474 - 06/29/09 08:22 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: Georges93LX]
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 Originally Posted By: Georges93LX
Is a 99 Lightning engine PI or NPI.



PI

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#1801575 - 06/29/09 10:53 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: nickmckinney]
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I bought a a '99 Lightning engine and am seriously considering swapping my Romeo heads with Comp cams and headers over to this engine. The Windsor heads have a been know to blow out spark plugs. Any reason I can't?
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#1801720 - 06/30/09 04:32 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: Georges93LX]
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the spark plug threads for romeo and windsor heads are 100% the same. it would be a waste of time to swap the heads for that reason.

what i would do is timesert each plug whole and never worry about it again. you would have to probably run a cooler plug to compensate though. maybe not.
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#1801794 - 06/30/09 09:14 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: BigJon]
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The threads are different on some Windsor heads. You notice this when full thread plugs are used like NGK. Some Windsors allow the plug threads to protrude into the chamber, I have seen about half a dozen like this now. Here is an article on it:

Windsor Spark Plug Issues


Here is an article showing some issues with Timesert installation. Timeserts do not change the plug heat range or heat conduction.

Timserts

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#1801887 - 06/30/09 12:18 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: nickmckinney]
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I wanted to use my COMP 270ah cams but I may be better off to sell the engine and run the Lightning engine stock. Thanks for the links.
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#1803175 - 07/01/09 11:40 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: Georges93LX]
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 Originally Posted By: Georges93LX
I wanted to use my COMP 270ah cams but I may be better off to sell the engine and run the Lightning engine stock. Thanks for the links.


Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay for the lightning engine? I'm trying to decide between that and a 3 or 4 valve and puting my own forced induction on... eventually.
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#1803266 - 07/02/09 04:11 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: 2004_p71]
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i was wondering if i use 4.6 heads do i still need to use adapter plates or can i use all my stock set up
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#1803576 - 07/02/09 03:54 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: MidnightStalker]
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 Originally Posted By: MidnightStalker
 Originally Posted By: Georges93LX
I wanted to use my COMP 270ah cams but I may be better off to sell the engine and run the Lightning engine stock. Thanks for the links.


Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay for the lightning engine? I'm trying to decide between that and a 3 or 4 valve and puting my own forced induction on... eventually.


$1325.00
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#1803669 - 07/02/09 06:50 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's (Please Sticky) [Re: sikk_vic]
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 Originally Posted By: sikk_vic
i was wondering if i use 4.6 heads do i still need to use adapter plates or can i use all my stock set up


Did you even read my First post? The 4.6 and 5.4 heads are the same. The reason why you need the adapter plates is because the 5.4 is wider than the 4.6 so the 4.6 intake isn't wide enough.


Edited by Bondfreak13 (07/02/09 06:51 PM)
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