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#3880010 - 02/16/18 08:46 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 2004_p71]
MACHINEGUNN72 Offline
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Originally Posted By 2004_p71
the 5.4 lightning is your best bet !


Does anyone make an intercooled supercharger kit that bolts into a 2002 HPP with air suspension? Or is that asking too much? If I could get a bolt in kit, I would use that with Trick Flow Heads, a P&P Typhoon intake, then top it all off with a TB & plenum upgrade for either the 4.6 or 5.4. The 5.4 would be a nice upgrade especially since the undersquare nature would be torquey, but simplicity & dependability wins me over. I jump in this car without a thought & drive from NY to GA.


Edited by MACHINEGUNN72 (02/16/18 08:46 AM)
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#3880178 - 02/16/18 12:02 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: MACHINEGUNN72]
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Originally Posted By MACHINEGUNN72
Originally Posted By 2004_p71
the 5.4 lightning is your best bet !


Does anyone make an intercooled supercharger kit that bolts into a 2002 HPP with air suspension? Or is that asking too much? If I could get a bolt in kit, I would use that with Trick Flow Heads, a P&P Typhoon intake, then top it all off with a TB & plenum upgrade for either the 4.6 or 5.4. The 5.4 would be a nice upgrade especially since the undersquare nature would be torquey, but simplicity & dependability wins me over. I jump in this car without a thought & drive from NY to GA.


The ONLY bolt on intercooler kits for ANY Panther platform cars are the air to air intercooler setups offered by ADTR.net. They are made for centrifugal blowers.
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#3883154 - 02/19/18 03:42 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Black_Sunshine]
MACHINEGUNN72 Offline
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Originally Posted By Black_Sunshine
Originally Posted By MACHINEGUNN72
Originally Posted By 2004_p71
the 5.4 lightning is your best bet !


Does anyone make an intercooled supercharger kit that bolts into a 2002 HPP with air suspension? Or is that asking too much? If I could get a bolt in kit, I would use that with Trick Flow Heads, a P&P Typhoon intake, then top it all off with a TB & plenum upgrade for either the 4.6 or 5.4. The 5.4 would be a nice upgrade especially since the undersquare nature would be torquey, but simplicity & dependability wins me over. I jump in this car without a thought & drive from NY to GA.


I looked at that site when I first got the MGM & I thought that they only make a bolt on kit for 2003 & up? And wasn’t compatible with cars with RAS either? I believe I’ve found my project though regardless. The Saleen II supercharger that I have seen a fellow on this site did back in 2007-ish

The ONLY bolt on intercooler kits for ANY Panther platform cars are the air to air intercooler setups offered by ADTR.net. They are made for centrifugal blowers.
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#3958425 - 05/20/18 07:36 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
agroff383 Offline
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Registered: 05/01/18
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this is a great thread...freakin love these cars with the blower halfway out of the hood

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#3988322 - 06/25/18 09:20 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
dixiebandit69 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/12
Posts: 318
Loc: Texas
Hey guys, I thought I would give y'all a long term update on my swap.
A couple of months ago, my air conditioning was starting to act erratic: sometimes it would blow out of the defroster for no reason, regardless of the blend door position I selected.
Sometimes it would go back to blowing out of the vents while I was driving, sometimes it wouldn't.
I figured it was the blend door actuator going bad, but I was wrong: It was the vacuum line that feeds the defroster door. It had gotten melted by the EGR tube, and the vacuum line that feeds the parking brake switch was completely melted through.

What does this have to do with a 5.4 swap?

Well, since the swap raised the height of the EGR tube in relation to the engine bay, it put it a lot closer to those vacuum lines. I remember after I did the swap, that I thought those lines were pretty close to the EGR tube, but I figured the factory EGR insulation would be enough - and it was for a year and a half.

So I decided to eliminate the parking brake vacuum line entirely (I have always HATED that feature on Ford cars), and I replaced the defroster line with a piece of 3/16" steel brake line.
I routed it much closer to the firewall that it was from the factory, and I wrapped my EGR tube with titanium header wrap.

Now my A/C blows out of the vents.

Sorry in advance, I didn't take any pictures with the EGR tube installed. It slipped my mind, and I'll get some up soon.

The pictures are as follows:

1) A picture of the melted lines from the bottom of the car. The black defroster line is still intact, but kind of pinched in where it melted from the heat.
As you can see, the white parking brake line is completely melted through.

2) This is what you will be taking out. That grommet comes out from the cabin side. I ran a piece of 3/16" brake line through one of the holes and trimmed it shorter. The bigger white line was just a plug on my car.

3) This is the piece of brake line that I ended up using in the grommet, and a failed first attempt at the bottom.
I used that thin piece of wire to make my final design.
I used a pair of tight radius bending pliers to make the close bends.

4) Here it is, installed in the car. It's much farther away from the EGR tube now, and even if it wasn't, it's never going to get hot enough to melt that brake line.

I hope this helps some people out.


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#4033464 - 10/06/19 10:12 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
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Good news for the ones looking to do the swap !

Bob hardings at HPS intake solution has announced on his facebook page that Jordan at modular head shop is taking over the production of the 5.4 intake manifold .

The intake used to be manufactured in texas and HPS solution stopped producing them quite some time ago.

https://www.facebook.com/fordmodmotorintakes/
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#4050474 - 03/06/20 12:23 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
RussFord Offline
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Nice! They’re literally twenty minutes from me.
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#4050714 - 03/07/20 12:40 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
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well run to the shop and ask jordan what is going on lol
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#4112238 - 06/11/21 04:24 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 2004_p71]
03LTC Offline
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Registered: 04/13/17
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Loc: Canada
Well folks I just picked up a 5.4 from an expedition that will eventually make its way into my 2003 Town car. I've already got stainless works headers on the townie and I plan on keeping them or modifying them to fit.

I'm torn between having the heads ported or getting trick flows, or maybe just putting a set of cams and springs in it.

Anyone have any recommendations for cams for a 5.4? Not too worried about losing a bit of low end torque since I've got 3.73s in it already, just don't want it to fall off at high Rpms like the stock 5.4s do.

And yes I have a trick flow plenum and 70mm throttle body with underdrive pulleys.

I'd love to hear some suggestions!


Edited by 03LTC (06/11/21 04:26 PM)

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#4112252 - 06/11/21 08:00 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 03LTC]
dixiebandit69 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/12
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Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By 03LTC
Well folks I just picked up a 5.4 from an expedition that will eventually make its way into my 2003 Town car. I've already got stainless works headers on the townie and I plan on keeping them or modifying them to fit.

I'm torn between having the heads ported or getting trick flows, or maybe just putting a set of cams and springs in it.

Anyone have any recommendations for cams for a 5.4? Not too worried about losing a bit of low end torque since I've got 3.73s in it already, just don't want it to fall off at high Rpms like the stock 5.4s do.

And yes I have a trick flow plenum and 70mm throttle body with underdrive pulleys.

I'd love to hear some suggestions!


If you can afford the Trick Flows, do it. No amount of porting can make up for the bad intake valve angles of PI heads.

I'm running Comp XE268s because I got a good deal on them; they're alright, and don't hurt low-end torque at all.
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#4112254 - 06/11/21 08:05 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: Bondfreak13]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
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Speaking of the trick flow heads here , I am 100% positive that I would have never made the power I am making without those heads . That being said , they need specefic cams to go with so chose accordingly .
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#4112262 - 06/11/21 10:10 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: dixiebandit69]
03LTC Offline
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Registered: 04/13/17
Posts: 25
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By dixiebandit69
[quote=03LTC]

If you can afford the Trick Flows, do it. No amount of porting can make up for the bad intake valve angles of PI heads.

I'm running Comp XE268s because I got a good deal on them; they're alright, and don't hurt low-end torque at all.


Have you ever gotten any timeslips or dyno'd the car?

Also has anyone modified the stainless works headers to fit a 5.4 or am I going to be the first?

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#4112278 - 06/12/21 08:00 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 03LTC]
2004_p71 Offline

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Originally Posted By 03LTC


Have you ever gotten any timeslips or dyno'd the car?

Also has anyone modified the stainless works headers to fit a 5.4 or am I going to be the first?


I have made 390hp 382lbtq at the wheels Naturally aspirated and it 13.079 @ 105 1.8 60. I changed the intake and got the right cams this time and expect this car to run mid to low 12's .

As far as long tube headers , I did it in 2012 with Stainless works headers that were made for 03+ crown vic . I had them make me a set with the flanges tack welded and ended up cutting the primaries at the flange to make it work.

if you fell like reading a lot heres the thread that explain about it .
https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2599789&page=1
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#4112286 - 06/12/21 11:08 AM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 2004_p71]
03LTC Offline
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Thanks for posting that. Looks like I'm going to be cutting and welding my SW headers!

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#4112288 - 06/12/21 12:11 PM Re: 5.4 Swap FAQ's [Re: 03LTC]
2004_p71 Offline

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Originally Posted By 03LTC
Thanks for posting that. Looks like I'm going to be cutting and welding my SW headers!



It,s totally doable but I'd sugess a good tig welder to get it done .
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