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#1846361 - 08/26/09 05:56 PM Putting a fuel cell in the trunk?
Bigrick31 Offline
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Registered: 02/10/08
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With the addition of my cars new rear end its come to my attention that I can no longer drop my gas tank without first taking out the IRS. For this reason i would like to remove my stock gas tank and add a fuel cell in my trunk. I dont know that much about how the fuel system works in a car but I keep hearing that I need to use my stock sending unit however in order to do that it needs to be mounted in the same position it is now which is sideways. I would like to have a fuel cell with the sending unit sitting on top. I know people who build fuel cells so i can get one that fits nicely into my trunk but I would like to know if i want my sending unit mounted on top of the fuel cell what will I need to do? Im guessing buy an aftermarket sending unit and probably change out a bunch of other stuff in the car as well if someone could explain the process to me and recommend some quality parts id really appreciate it.
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#1846982 - 08/27/09 11:18 AM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: Bigrick31]
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Anyone?
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https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2030254&fpart=1
Mods: 87 Jaguar XJS IRS, 2.5" H pipe exhaust with SLP loudmouth II mufflers, 18" dodge charger Police wheels, Steeda Under Drive pulleys, Air ride suspension (Lays frame!) One off Lower control arms. Converted AC compressor into an on board air compressor Sims trim black pain Custom air brushing on trunk lid 5% tint in the back 20% in front.

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#1847214 - 08/27/09 04:45 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: Bigrick31]
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I use an aftermarket Jaz tank in the RocketCouch with a fuel sending unit built into it. I made a mount on to keep the tank level so it always has a constant supply of fuel going to the sump.

Here's some pics of mine:



Making the stock sending unit work with an aftermarket or custom cell will need modification. I don't even think that anyone that has done a fuel cell would even bother with the stock sending unit.

I know your buddy can make a tank but if you need any fuel system parts please let me know \:\)

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#1847563 - 08/28/09 01:18 AM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: RocketCouch]
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Chris i didn't know you were running nitrous. And i think a fuel cell would be cool.
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#1847580 - 08/28/09 02:30 AM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: CVPI_GT]
Bigrick31 Offline
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So what do i take the sending unit out of? A f150? or do i buy an aftermarket one that will work with my fuel gauge?
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https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2030254&fpart=1
Mods: 87 Jaguar XJS IRS, 2.5" H pipe exhaust with SLP loudmouth II mufflers, 18" dodge charger Police wheels, Steeda Under Drive pulleys, Air ride suspension (Lays frame!) One off Lower control arms. Converted AC compressor into an on board air compressor Sims trim black pain Custom air brushing on trunk lid 5% tint in the back 20% in front.

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#1848066 - 08/28/09 08:12 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: Bigrick31]
1997GrandMarquis Offline
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Registered: 04/09/09
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Loc: New Baltimore, MI
I personally dont think you would need to use the sending unit thats in a ford really. Its just that you'd have to pick a aftermarket sending unit that will work with the ford style.

an example. I had a G body cutlass and had a fuel cell in it..Gm usses sending units that read 0 ohms - 90 ohms. 0 ohms = empty and 90 = full.

I"m not sure what ford units read at but thats all you'd need to make sure of.
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#1848188 - 08/28/09 10:32 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: 1997GrandMarquis]
IZ1111 Offline
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Registered: 07/19/08
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Loc: Houston, TX
Fuel cell in the trunk is sounding better by the minute.
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#1848648 - 08/29/09 01:36 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: IZ1111]
Bigrick31 Offline
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Anyone know what the ohm specs are for a for sending unit? Also the fuel pump in my car is in the fuel tank when adding a fuel cell im guessing i need an after market fuel pump that mounts outside of the tank?
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https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2030254&fpart=1
Mods: 87 Jaguar XJS IRS, 2.5" H pipe exhaust with SLP loudmouth II mufflers, 18" dodge charger Police wheels, Steeda Under Drive pulleys, Air ride suspension (Lays frame!) One off Lower control arms. Converted AC compressor into an on board air compressor Sims trim black pain Custom air brushing on trunk lid 5% tint in the back 20% in front.

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#1849930 - 08/31/09 04:09 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: Bigrick31]
JohnnyB Offline
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: San Diego-ish
15ohms = empty
160ohms = full
resistance in the wiring from the fuel sender to the gauge should be < 5ohms
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#1849987 - 08/31/09 05:52 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: JohnnyB]
Bigrick31 Offline
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Loc: Nor*Cal
Thanks for that!
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https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2030254&fpart=1
Mods: 87 Jaguar XJS IRS, 2.5" H pipe exhaust with SLP loudmouth II mufflers, 18" dodge charger Police wheels, Steeda Under Drive pulleys, Air ride suspension (Lays frame!) One off Lower control arms. Converted AC compressor into an on board air compressor Sims trim black pain Custom air brushing on trunk lid 5% tint in the back 20% in front.

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#1851192 - 09/02/09 01:35 AM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: Bigrick31]
indianerMoustach Offline
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Registered: 07/31/09
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Loc: indiana
run your fuel pump outside the car if you can or you will smell fuel in the car all the time. my corolla was like that until i moved the pump. i was afraid to smoke in it
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#1859624 - 09/13/09 06:20 PM Re: Putting a fuel cell in the trunk? [Re: indianerMoustach]
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Registered: 03/04/07
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Loc: Las Vegas
what is this fuel cell thing?
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