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#2014240 - 03/30/10 08:57 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Section8]
BlaineB Offline
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Yes I understand. Although it is pretty close anyway, and the cup technically reduces the inner diameter a bit....although just slightly, it still does.

Funny thing, the older Cherokee's used to have an extension in the air box to reach behind the headlight just as the Panther's do. However in the later models this extension was eliminated and a block off plate was added over the hole behind the headlight. Literally, a plastic piece screwed to the header panel blocking this cold air flow was added from the factory. Easily removed, however.....still, what is the idea behind that?!?!


Edited by BlaineB (03/30/10 08:58 PM)

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#2014319 - 03/30/10 10:38 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: BlaineB]
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 Originally Posted By: BlaineB
Funny thing, the older Cherokee's used to have an extension in the air box to reach behind the headlight just as the Panther's do. However in the later models this extension was eliminated and a block off plate was added over the hole behind the headlight. Literally, a plastic piece screwed to the header panel blocking this cold air flow was added from the factory. Easily removed, however.....still, what is the idea behind that?!?!


A little thing called budget cuts \:D
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#2014333 - 03/30/10 10:55 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Quickvic30]
BlaineB Offline
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I wouldn't think a budget cut would involve the addition of a worthless piece of black plastic covering up a nice hole which let that nice colder air in. But who knows, maybe they found some scrap plastic somewhere.

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#2014347 - 03/30/10 11:20 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: BlaineB]
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maybe water was being sucked in. who knows
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#2014369 - 03/31/10 12:21 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: 99_03PantherS]
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Maybe the plate made it quieter, to help pass noise emmission tests. Just a guess.
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#2014380 - 03/31/10 12:29 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: b1kfd]
Quickvic30 Offline
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Maybe someone should E-mail chrysler and ask \:D
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#2014402 - 03/31/10 12:56 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Quickvic30]
Section8 Offline
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Awesome hijack!

Maybe you can pursue the issue further on http://www.idontgiveacrap.com
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#2014434 - 03/31/10 01:42 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Section8]
BlaineB Offline
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There is no issue, I was just comparing the two.

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#2015070 - 03/31/10 10:08 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: BlaineB]
BlaineB Offline
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delete


Edited by BlaineB (04/01/10 02:43 AM)

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#2016170 - 04/02/10 10:05 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: BlaineB]
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how do you get the snorkel out?

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#2016249 - 04/02/10 12:36 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Texas_Charlie]
Rizzo Offline
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Pull.

Hard.

It's just pressed in.
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#2016654 - 04/03/10 12:06 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: Rizzo]
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i did this today because i had nothing better to do. i dont know if it was wishfull thinking but it felt like it worked. a large drink cup from a fast food joint works well
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#2016689 - 04/03/10 02:08 AM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: will_reed90]
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I did a similar mod to my airbox. instead of using a cup, i used a 3" abs rubber pipe coupler with a hose clamp. I had to cut it a bit to fit perfectly, but it looks clean, and makes a positive seal with the fender. \:\) btw, it clamps onto the outside of the hole of which the snorkel was removed.

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#2016986 - 04/03/10 05:30 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: jefo]
BlaineB Offline
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That sounds like it would be the best option as the tube would not make the inner diameter of the intake hole any smaller than it already is. Can you grab some pictures to show what kind of coupling you actually used?

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#2017038 - 04/03/10 07:32 PM Re: Big Gulp (of air) Free intake snorkel Mod [Re: BlaineB]
Section8 Offline
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How many fractions of a millimeter thick is a free cup? maybe 1/2mm or 1/3mm?

As long as this hole is bigger than your throttle body or MAF I don't think you need to worry about that 1/3 of a mm difference.

The problem with the home depot mod where you cut off the snorkel and attach a pipe, is the remaining piece has a smaller hole than any other point in the intake system.
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