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#1958350 - 01/17/10 12:16 AM motor oil
dmitriy Offline
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Hello friends. my crown vic 1992 written on the plastic motor oil 20w40. But chiltone says 5w30. Who is right? Which oil is better to pour into such a machine. climate we have -10 C to 40C.
thank you


Edited by dmitriy (01/17/10 12:17 AM)

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#1958354 - 01/17/10 12:23 AM Re: motor oil [Re: dmitriy]
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5W30 or 5W20, whichever is cheaper and available to you.

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#1958362 - 01/17/10 12:53 AM Re: motor oil [Re: BlueFusion]
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but on the plastic lid, which closes the radiator, a sticker. In her scheme of belt accessories and inscription oil 20W 40. I did not invent. I looked at the second car - there just

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#1958364 - 01/17/10 12:58 AM Re: motor oil [Re: dmitriy]
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See the oil recommendation here or view as pdf.

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#1958397 - 01/17/10 02:47 AM Re: motor oil [Re: BlueFusion]
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No way should 20W-40 be used, that's WAY too heavy (and I don't think I've even seen that particular blend before).

5W-30 was the factory fill, and 5W-20 is what's recommended now. Either one will do the job.
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#1958421 - 01/17/10 05:31 AM Re: motor oil [Re: SPM]
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I've seen 20W-50 for racing.

Guys, I just noticed that the OP is from ukraine, could that be why his suggests 20w40, could that be the US equivalent of 5w30 or 5W20??


Edited by Tracy (01/17/10 05:32 AM)
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#1958462 - 01/17/10 09:35 AM Re: motor oil [Re: Tracy]
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Keep in mind that is an oil recommendation made in 1992. I think 5w20 would be a good choice.
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#1961290 - 01/21/10 03:36 AM Re: motor oil [Re: Dan04Merc]
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that's the sticker on the plastic http://foto.mail.ru/mail/trudovie_rezervi/_myphoto/48.html

http://foto.mail.ru/mail/trudovie_rezervi/_myphoto/49.html

http://content.foto.mail.ru/mail/trudovie_rezervi/_myphoto/i-49.jpg
it says use 20W-40 oil api service sf. sf / cc, sg. of sf / cd
and 5W20 - this train synthetics, and in cars in 1992 recommended mineral oil?


Edited by dmitriy (01/21/10 03:52 AM)

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#1961356 - 01/21/10 08:05 AM Re: motor oil [Re: dmitriy]
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dmitriy,

The old oil recommendations are superceeded by Ford for the following oils in chronological order, 5W-30, 5W-20, and 0W-20 with the 0W-20 oil being the latest recomendation. Any of these oils would protect easily down to -30C with the 0W oil down below -30C. Any of these oils will also protect the engine up to ambient temperatures of 40C. If you are super concerned about engine wear in summer you could run straight 30W if the temperatures do not drop below 20C. That said any of the oils above will work well in our engines. A 20W-40 oil will only protect the engine to 10C and is way too thick for -10C. A 20W-40 oil should be used in Sahara desert type conditions only. I think you bought a car intended for tropical use only. If I were you I would use a 0W-20 oil and if not available go with either the 5W-20 or the 5W-30 oils if available.

Stalag


Edited by stalag (01/21/10 08:07 AM)
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#1961373 - 01/21/10 08:49 AM Re: motor oil [Re: stalag]
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for a 2000 crown vic lx hpp with 130K on the dash, what kind of oil would be best? I'm useing 10-40 right now. I'm going for a oil change on saturday. Should i keep doing 10-40 or go with something esle? I'm going to try royal purple motor oil with a motorcraft oil filter.
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#1961382 - 01/21/10 09:13 AM Re: motor oil [Re: ford05]
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You are absolutely right. are a lot of labels in Arabic. And one more question. Mineral oil or synthetic? or no difference, if only in line with sg

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#1961386 - 01/21/10 09:37 AM Re: motor oil [Re: dmitriy]
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Ford00,

You should due to the tight tolerances in our engines and in the climate you live go immediately to a lighter oil. Optimally you should be using 0W-20 already but I would step through series of oil changes every 3000 mi of 5W-30, 5W-20 before using the 0W-20 which is what you should be using. Ford specifies the lighter oils so that the timing chain tensioners and valve lash adjusters are pressured quicker in a cold start. For North America the temperature extremes are wide enough that unless you are running the car 8 hours/day 7 days/week you do not need/want to use a 10W-40 at all. Something like 10W-40 is intended for commercial use where engines are NOT shut down for multiple hours or in older engines with very loose tolerances produced before the 1980 model year. I doubt you have either of those cases true for your 2000 CV. The only reason for the step down in oil viscosity is to "wash" the heavier oils out. If you use oils heavier than recomended by the manufacturer you can lose your warranty.

Hope this helps.

Dmitriy,

Use of synthetics vs. conventional oil is still a hot topic you will find a lot of debate on. I personally use a full synthetic oil with a Group IV base stock because these oils protect the engine better. However they are more expensive. If you change the oil every 5000km you can use either with absolutely no bad effects. A good synthetic like Mobil 1 or Amsoil though can protect an engine up to 15000km with no problems. Note Castrol Syntec is a Group III oil (highly refined but not full synthetic) but none the less a good oil to use as well but keep in mind the 5000km recommendation for oil changes with this oil.

Hope this helps.

Stalag


Edited by stalag (01/21/10 09:38 AM)
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On my LTC the following mods/upgrades were added. Heinous motorsport control arms, Command Automotive SD-1 rotors (these rotors can no longer be obtained), Calipers by Goldlinebrakes.com in silver with Hawk HPS pads (now running Ford OEM), MSD COP's. MZT is also applied with programming from BOC. j-mod is now done. Final rebuild of transmission done by Gearstar.

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#1961418 - 01/21/10 10:55 AM Re: motor oil [Re: stalag]
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I would not go as low as 0W-20 unless I was in Canada. Even here in Northern Ohio where it periodically drops below 0F, 5W-20 is just fine year round. It's what Ford recommends and uses at the dealer and that or 5W-30 has been used in this car since new and no problems thus far concerning engine wear. And starts up just fine in those cold conditions, too.

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#1961429 - 01/21/10 11:47 AM Re: motor oil [Re: BlueFusion]
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I'll start with 5-30 on my next oil change. I'm not planning on going as low as 0-20.
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#1961439 - 01/21/10 11:57 AM Re: motor oil [Re: ford05]
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Just trying to let you know. For most of us in North America either 5W-20 or 5W-30 is more than sufficient. You probably will see better gas milage with the 5W-20 oil though. 0W-20 should be synthetic oil though (Group IV basestock) but you should also see some additional milage improvement. However your milage may vary.

Stalag
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On my LTC the following mods/upgrades were added. Heinous motorsport control arms, Command Automotive SD-1 rotors (these rotors can no longer be obtained), Calipers by Goldlinebrakes.com in silver with Hawk HPS pads (now running Ford OEM), MSD COP's. MZT is also applied with programming from BOC. j-mod is now done. Final rebuild of transmission done by Gearstar.

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