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#2230385 - 02/02/11 10:26 AM how do u know if u have a bad IAC
Mercinterceptor Offline
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Registered: 08/04/10
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Loc: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Hi i posted a couple times about having bad fuel mileage, a loud humming vibration noise in drive sitting idle and c hugging and sputterin while comin to a stop, someone suggested a bad IAC how do u check and see if its defective or not. And does neone know what a COP is that is the other thing a member told me to check
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#2230405 - 02/02/11 10:46 AM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: Mercinterceptor]
98VicP71 Offline
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COP is coil on plug..

the IAC or idle air control valve is what sets and manages your idle. Not really anyway to test it that i know of however.

if you get the horn sound through the intake, high idle or low or now idle stalling I would say replace the IAC as they are somewhat common to going out and cheap/easy fix.
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#2230415 - 02/02/11 11:05 AM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: 98VicP71]
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thanks alot 98VicP71
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#2230443 - 02/02/11 11:47 AM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: Mercinterceptor]
Mazlem Offline
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Try cleaning it first. It's worked great for me (lasted a couple years before I had to clean it again.)
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#2230454 - 02/02/11 12:04 PM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: Mercinterceptor]
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Registered: 04/24/07
Posts: 150
Loc: NC
From past experience:
If the Idle Air Control is bad the engine will start but run rough, apply some throttle and it will smooth out. If the MAF
sensor is bad the engine will start but stall as soon as throttle is applied or the tranny shifted into gear. You didn't say what year you vehicle was, if it does not have spark plug
wires it has individual Coil On Plug. The COPs are located right beneath the fuel rails. Looks like an oversized bottle cap with a couple of short wires and a connector. Visit your local auto parts store, they should be able to use a scanner and pull a code to indicate what the trouble is. If it's a COP it will tell which one. From the front of the car, the 4.6 cylinders are, on
the passanger side, 1,2,3,4, on the drivers side, 5.6.7 and 8 is
closest to the firewall. To replace a COP, undo the connector,
use a socket, nut driver or screwdriver to remove the small screw holding the COP, pull the COP out, you may have to bend it a little to clear the fuel rail but dont worry, the boot only covers a spring which contact the spark plug. The COP does not clip to the plug. Installation is the reverse. Apply a liberal amount of dielectrec grease to the end of the COP and insert it into the plug hole and press down until the screw holes lines up.
Insert and GENTLY tighten the screw a litte more than finger tight. It only engages by a couple of threads. Strip it and you got problems.

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#2230488 - 02/02/11 12:40 PM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: FASTERNU]
98VicP71 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: FASTERNU
From past experience:
If the Idle Air Control is bad the engine will start but run rough, apply some throttle and it will smooth out. If the MAF
sensor is bad the engine will start but stall as soon as throttle is applied or the tranny shifted into gear. You didn't say what year you vehicle was, if it does not have spark plug
wires it has individual Coil On Plug. The COPs are located right beneath the fuel rails. Looks like an oversized bottle cap with a couple of short wires and a connector. Visit your local auto parts store, they should be able to use a scanner and pull a code to indicate what the trouble is. If it's a COP it will tell which one. From the front of the car, the 4.6 cylinders are, on
the passanger side, 1,2,3,4, on the drivers side, 5.6.7 and 8 is
closest to the firewall. To replace a COP, undo the connector,
use a socket, nut driver or screwdriver to remove the small screw holding the COP, pull the COP out, you may have to bend it a little to clear the fuel rail but dont worry, the boot only covers a spring which contact the spark plug. The COP does not clip to the plug. Installation is the reverse. Apply a liberal amount of dielectrec grease to the end of the COP and insert it into the plug hole and press down until the screw holes lines up.
Insert and GENTLY tighten the screw a litte more than finger tight. It only engages by a couple of threads. Strip it and you got problems.


You have your info backwards for the MAF and IAC. if the car runs rough, bad gas mileage then a dirty MAF could cause that. Dirty MAF may cause some idle issue but the idle is controlled by the IAC so most idling issue in and out of gear are caused by the IAC.
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#2230522 - 02/02/11 01:13 PM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: 98VicP71]
SPM Offline
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Registered: 09/10/09
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Loc: Minnesota
When my car's IAC was bad, it would start that hum/buzz sound whenever I shifted into gear first thing in the morning, accompanied by higher than normal idle speed. It would eventually settle down after a bit of driving.

I've heard mixed results on trying to clean the IAC...I personally just replaced it and have not had a problem since. That's what I would suggest, you have all the symptoms.
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#2230705 - 02/02/11 05:06 PM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: SPM]
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Loc: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
Thanks everyone for your input thanks for enlightening me on the cops, I just got those and my spark plugs changed recently and it was doing it before hand so I'm go with switchin out the IAC for now, I'll keep everybody posted
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#2230736 - 02/02/11 05:29 PM Re: how do u know if u have a bad IAC [Re: Mercinterceptor]
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