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#2405635 - 11/11/11 07:14 PM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
Ethan Offline
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Quickster, you're car is the exception. It turned out great, but you also put great amounts of labor into it.
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#2405830 - 11/12/11 12:28 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
Hypnotoad Offline
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Quote:
the sooner you stop, the better it will end


As much as I hate to say it,it's true.

Looking back on my first attempt to paint a vehicle,I caused several DAYS of work from just hurrying in and thinking I could do it right off the bat. Having to hand sand down an entire old model suburban is a pain in the ass @[email protected]


If you want to learn how to paint,take your time,get your equipment,learn how to use it on scrap pieces of metal,and preferably do it on a car that isn't your DD.
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#2405858 - 11/12/11 02:13 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
BlaineB Offline
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So many negative comments in this thread. I give you a lot of credit for undertaking this project on your own!

The only thing I am confused about, I thought you took this car to Maaco to get it painted black before? I guess not. I recall seeing photos of it in the gallery and it looked awesome in black, very glossy and shiny. But it would appear that was the previous paint job that you did last year?

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#2405878 - 11/12/11 06:19 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: Ezbok58a]
P70_Owner Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ezbok58a
Originally Posted By: P70_Owner

Ezbok, I wouldn't mind your comments if you actually had any experence and nothing but pointless hot air.


Sorry Shack, but I've painted and prepped enough items to know the fundamentals of paint, perpetration, and body work. My work has been posted on this very site, and it's all in the Diecast section...I've screwed up enough small scale models and had to take them back down to bare metal to fix that screw up. There it doesn't matter as much because I'm dealing with small scale, not something I see out in the open every day and showing the world my skill or lack thereof.


Diecast? lol How about you try painting a car then respond. Different leagues. No offence but if you mess up a Matchbox or whatever, it's a to easier to rescuff and shoot it then an actual car.

Good luck with your toys tho, I bet they look great... lol

Originally Posted By: BlaineB
So many negative comments in this thread. I give you a lot of credit for undertaking this project on your own!

The only thing I am confused about, I thought you took this car to Maaco to get it painted black before? I guess not. I recall seeing photos of it in the gallery and it looked awesome in black, very glossy and shiny. But it would appear that was the previous paint job that you did last year?


Nah, I was thinking about it but decided to take the Wagner to my car. It looked alright when you were about 30 feet away but the issue is that the paint was somewhat "textured" so that crap would stick to it. After a while of driving around it would turn from black to kinda like primer gray. it looked like ass. if this doesn't work, I'm going to drop it off at Maaco once they have a sale. Hopefully I won't need to tho. lol
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#2405880 - 11/12/11 06:40 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
QuicksterP71 Offline
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After hitting it with the belt sander i would sand it starting with 80 grit paper and work your way up to 320 grit paper. You could use a palm sander i wore the one out i bought for my paint job. 80 120 220 then 320 paper then hit it with some self etch high build primer with your wagner primer is a lot cheaper than paint you could hit it with 3 or 4 coats of primer then change primer colors to from like grey to something like red primer and give it one more thin coat of primer. then sand all the red primer off your car you will see all the imperfections this cause red primer will ve hard to sand out of let dents dings and scratches. the spots that are real hard to sand out you will want to fill with some body filler and sand again
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#2405964 - 11/12/11 10:37 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
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The same principles apply to diecasts as a real car. Only change is size.

Sand, filler, sand, sand, primer, sand, primer, paint, sand...

Give or take some sandings. It's the same damned process, you want to be a jackass about it go ahead...see where that gets you.
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#2405970 - 11/12/11 10:46 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
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Holy hell. I saw "belt sander" and "paint stripper" and just knew things would not end well. I was not disappointed, although I would have been very happy to be wrong.

The best thing for you to do now is to just stop, buy a car in better shape, and use the P70 as a parts car. It will be cheaper.
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#2406087 - 11/12/11 03:01 PM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: BigNSlow]
ALPHA Offline
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Registered: 05/14/10
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Originally Posted By: BigNSlow
Originally Posted By: Ezbok58a
Now that is a brilliant idea. Take the entire car down to bare metal, with the belt sander and have it with a 'brushed aluminum' look. Then clear coat it.

Get some of that chrome spray paint they have at the store and you've taken care of the bumpers...

Hey, we've made lemonade out of lemons! Good idea Ethan!


What's gonna happen to the parts that were welded at the factory? Or parts where previous body work was done?

Could always do this.



that is by far the coolist thing i think i have seen on an old school bmw....LOVE IT FTW
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#2406165 - 11/12/11 06:35 PM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
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well he got the bad paint off the car with the belt sander now if he gets out the da sander i think it should be ok


Edited by QuicksterP71 (11/12/11 06:43 PM)
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#2406335 - 11/13/11 02:25 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: QuicksterP71]
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Originally Posted By: QuicksterP71
well he got the bad paint off the car with the belt sander now if he gets out the da sander i think it should be ok


Soon as one wants to hook me up with one and all the equipment I need to run it, sure, I'll give it a shot.

Until then, I'm using a belt sander that I got for $50 at Wally world that I'm going to return after this project. lol
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Want to throw throw money down the drain and make your car look like crap? Try painting your car yourself!

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#2406337 - 11/13/11 02:35 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
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#2406374 - 11/13/11 08:01 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
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Loc: NY
Calm down guys, this is going to take a bit. I'm working 73 hour weeks for the next 2 months and I have a 18 month old daughter. This is going to be on the back burner and I'm going to get to it when I have some free time (rarely). That's why this is a "project" not a job or something serious.

Soon as I got updates, I'll post 'em.

Keep it locked.
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'07 P70 with 280K. Runs like a champ. laugh

Came with the "Taxi Chip"! grin

Want to throw throw money down the drain and make your car look like crap? Try painting your car yourself!

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#2406413 - 11/13/11 10:04 AM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
QuicksterP71 Offline
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Registered: 02/05/11
Posts: 2114
Loc: Ma.
You can get an eelectric orbatal sander from walmart or lowes for about $30 will work just great. The Gator sand paper that lowes sells works great dosn't clog quickly and is inexpensive. Again start with 80 grit paper and work your way up to 220 when sanding the primer sand it with 320. I almost wish i could be there to help you. I enjoyed painting my car. So have fun don't work to hard and take your time it is not a race.

Sander

Gator Sand Paper
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#2406535 - 11/13/11 03:12 PM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
Hypnotoad Offline
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Registered: 10/26/09
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Loc: Birchwood,TN
Also,a color suggestion.

White,or any light color. They hide imperfections in the body and probelms in paint(orange peel,runs) much better than dark colors.
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#2406576 - 11/13/11 05:05 PM Re: The $80 foam brush paint job [Re: P70_Owner]
NGreen0807 Offline
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Wait, your gonna return the used sander that you used to complete your job?

nono we just had a thread about that.

That's wrong dude.
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