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#27438 - 11/09/02 03:23 PM Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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When I put the octane plug on, (95 Crown Victoria Police) it drains my battery dead! I already kill one down to 7 volts over night. I done tests with a light bulb to negative terminal on my battery, when the octane plug is out (default) it's ok, when I put it on, it drains my battery! What's up with that? Is it supposed to be doing that?

Another question is about the spark out plug. When removed, ECC has no longer control over timing. What is better, when ECC controls the timing, or when your ignition relies on PIP sensor for that? What gives better control and more power?

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#27439 - 11/09/02 03:24 PM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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(spark out plug doesn't drains the battery, only the octane plug does, when you put it on to advance 3 degrees)

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#27440 - 11/09/02 03:27 PM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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Physically impossible unless there is a dead short in the harness.

Your car does not have a PIP.
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#27441 - 11/09/02 07:22 PM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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According to my wiring diagram of EDIS. There is a PIP signal going from EEC-IV to EDIS module.

Still question stands, do I gain anything by removing SPOUT plug?

How do I troubleshoot the octane plug? Anyone have octane plug set to advance 3 degrees, does it works?

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#27442 - 11/09/02 07:42 PM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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You said, and I quote "PIP sensor", in your first post. On the signal, you are correct.

The "spout" is only a "jumper", either open or closed....a switch if you will, no variability at all.

Get a wiring diagram and follow it back to the EEC/EDIS.
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#27443 - 11/09/02 10:44 PM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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I apologize for any inconsistency in my first post. I am not familiar with this type of ignition. I will get the wiring diagram. Thank you for your help.

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#27444 - 11/10/02 12:49 AM Re: Octane & Spark Out plugs, drains my battery
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A Spout (Spark Output) plug sets engine to base timing when pulled, only used for checking the ignition timing. Leave it in.
My WAG would be possibly bad ecm or ecm ground. But as mentioned check your wiring diagrams. Would also check for fault codes.

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