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#1790381 - 06/14/09 11:07 AM Starter Removal "Trick"
Michigansquadcar Offline
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I dropped an 01 off at a local repair shop for a starter replacement. At the time I had more money than time. Bill came out to $71.10 for labor. Anyways, when I asked for the old starter back, the mechanic was kind of reluctant. To make a long story short he brought it back in pieces. His "Trick" is to break the silenoid off with a hammer. This shatters the nose cone off dislodging the silenoid. The nose cone is made of some sort of alloy and breaks easily when hit. Once the silenoid is off, the top 2 bolts are much easier to access and remove.


Edited by Michigansquadcar (06/14/09 11:08 AM)

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#1790396 - 06/14/09 11:25 AM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: Michigansquadcar]
Rizzo Offline
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I tried to unbolt my solenoid on the 97.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

If I had known I could break it with a hammer I would NOT have borrowed 2' of 3/8 extension from 3 people.
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#1790407 - 06/14/09 11:31 AM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: Rizzo]
koolaid6666 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/07
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That's How I did mine on a 99. My 03 was much easier but i still broke the solenoid off.
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#1790410 - 06/14/09 11:36 AM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: Michigansquadcar]
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I had to have my car towed for the first time this past January when the starter crapped out. The daily temperatures were in the single digits to very low teens so for me replacing it outside on the ground was not an option. Long story short after getting back my 10 year old original starter I was curious about the solenoid bolts and was very surprised that they came right out without a fuss escpecially considering my car has never been garaged and living in the salt belt. I can see that removing the solenoid would make the job much easier to get to those starter mounting bolts.
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#1790454 - 06/14/09 12:59 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: larryo340]
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I didn't have that option when I pulled the motor recently since the starter was still good. \:D Still wasn't bad using the wobble extension method from the front, though. However, I will keep this in mind if the starter ever goes bad.
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#1790481 - 06/14/09 01:45 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: mrbear5300]
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Registered: 04/26/08
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my 2-bolt starter was dead last year at work, i didnt know what is the problem but a miracle happened that the car started then after knocking on it using a hammer!!

i bought a used solinoid and motor brushes from the junk, dis-assembled the starter completly and washing it using gas, greasing the gears and re-installing..it is like new right now.

i will try to "kill" the old solinoid lol
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#1790483 - 06/14/09 01:46 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: 98P73_IRAQ]
gord_bolton Offline
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Loc: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
If the hammer is not your style you could use one of these.

http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/9388?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=froog

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#1790504 - 06/14/09 02:33 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: larryo340]
Codyy Offline
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Registered: 03/01/09
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Loc: Up North Eh
 Originally Posted By: larryo340
I had to have my car towed for the first time this past January when the starter crapped out. The daily temperatures were in the single digits to very low teens so for me replacing it outside on the ground was not an option. Long story short after getting back my 10 year old original starter I was curious about the solenoid bolts and was very surprised that they came right out without a fuss escpecially considering my car has never been garaged and living in the salt belt. I can see that removing the solenoid would make the job much easier to get to those starter mounting bolts.


You guys gotta toughen up! I replaced a Caravan starter in January, lying in the snow, with temperatures averaging between -20 to -30 and even as low as -40 with the wind chill. \:D

... then again I guess being an igloo - dwelling Canadian helps.


Edited by Codyy (06/14/09 02:33 PM)
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#1790512 - 06/14/09 02:53 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: gord_bolton]
Michigansquadcar Offline
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 Originally Posted By: gord_bolton
If the hammer is not your style you could use one of these.

http://www.wttool.com/product-exec/product_id/9388?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=froog


That would be the ideal way. The problem is the cat converter is in the way of these screws. With proper access, these screws are VERY hard to remove due to rust/corrosion. In order to replace silenoids in the past, I would use an impact screwdriver on them after the starter assembly was removed from the car.

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#2763110 - 10/01/13 03:48 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: Michigansquadcar]
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#2763112 - 10/01/13 03:49 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: tigman5356]
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i got this wrench hot with the wirefeed. I still have to tackle the 3rd bolt up high yet
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#2763478 - 10/02/13 12:13 PM Re: Starter Removal "Trick" [Re: tigman5356]
Wags4000 Offline
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Originally Posted By: tigman5356


big fan of this.....I've bent a few wrenches into shapes that I needed in order to get at stubborn bolts. most notably a bent and shaved 9/16 to get at the distributor hold down nut on my old caprice 307ci.
you can always buy more wrenches but those bent ones tell a story all their own :-)
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