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#2726163 - 06/24/13 07:48 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
ginger Offline
n00b

Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 47
Loc: north carolina
OK cool, thanks for the advice! Please believe there will be plenty more questions as i plan and decide what i'm really gonna do on this whole swap thing. I'm personally trying to find a wrecked cobra or motor trans pullout. Been pricing them around $8k at the bottom end so it would be nice if i could get one for $6k (motor/trans/harnesses/DS/etc...) so that maybe i could keep the whole build closer to $10k.
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2004 ex-FBI P71 SAP, charcoal grey paint/full factory LX interior, 84,XXX mi. Two Rockford 12" subs, JLAudio 5" components up front, JLAudio 6x9's rear Pioneer double din DVD head. 20% all around. 20" Bullit wheels. SW catback exhaust.

Planned:
4.10 gears (sittin in a box)
control arms
moar low
sway bars


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#2727548 - 06/27/13 03:43 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
LS1Vic Offline
n00b

Registered: 06/19/13
Posts: 14
Loc: Maryland
I have an extreme amount of respect for this car/build... well done

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#2727567 - 06/27/13 04:21 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
theperfectdrugsk Offline

Climber

Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 907
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Beautiful. Just absolutely gorgeous. If I can ask...how much did the whole shebang cost? I'm considering long-term storing my 2007 for a project vehicle, but I'm years away from having the cash to do so.
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not old...just cranky

2007 P71 180k, fighting entropy
2015 Prius, wife's car, and i like more than i should is hot garbage but gets good mileage

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#2727727 - 06/27/13 09:02 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
abyrnes81 Offline
Member

Registered: 02/19/11
Posts: 487
Loc: Citrus County, Florida
Would you mind taking some more pics of the heat exchanger mounting? Specifically the one behind the grill? I'm getting ready to mount mine soon, and could use some inspiration. Thanks.
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2001 P71-supercharged 5.4, ported Eaton, 6lb pulley, 3.73s, T56 Magnum, Hooker Aerochambers, 17x9 Soft 8s, 255-50-17 Nitto 555s


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#2728064 - 06/28/13 07:44 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
SiriusJones Offline
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Registered: 01/10/12
Posts: 126
Loc: Kingston, TN
Does having two heat exchangers necessitate having two pumps?
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2000 Ford Crown Victoria P71
Rebuilding a 5.4

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#2728203 - 06/29/13 07:09 AM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: SiriusJones]
Ari Offline

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Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 594
Loc: Central New Jersey
Originally Posted By: abyrnes81
Would you mind taking some more pics of the heat exchanger mounting? Specifically the one behind the grill? I'm getting ready to mount mine soon, and could use some inspiration. Thanks.


I'll try to grab some more picture for you before the weekend is up. The one behind the grill is mounted with some welded together metal stock, it's fairly basic.


Originally Posted By: SiriusJones
Does having two heat exchangers necessitate having two pumps?


Nope! My little reservoir has an outlet right near the bottom and that flows directly into my pump which then pumps into the first exchanger, then into the intercooler, then into the second heat exchanger, and then back into the reservoir. I haven't had any problems with the setup so far but i've only been running it for about 4 weeks. It doesn't seem like the pump is having that hard of a time pumping so it should be fine.
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2003 P71. (Winner of POTM for November 2014!)
In the process of coyote swapping!
Formerly 4.6L iron block, built bottom end, 4v Cobra heads, built rear end, VMP TVS supercharger, t56 magnum 6 speed swap, too many other mods to list.

593rwhp/568rwtq

Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#2730780 - 07/06/13 10:44 AM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
AODE Offline
Over the Hill

Registered: 07/27/02
Posts: 2551
Loc: Ohio
Nice build! I see Im not the only one to feel the pain of a
swap like this lol.

1. 1 pump only.

2. Put fans on the heat exchanger grille area.

3.Plumb something over that air filter, like an aluminum box to
keep out engine heat soak.Failure to do so will result in the ecm pulling timing, great loss of power.

4.The tranny is like that because there is no tune.

5.If you are using a crown vic computer and not a cobra, it should of never been driven without a tune.The vic's ecm will spike a lean wot sometimes, not knowing what to do,.

Just a few mins is all it took to put dings on my forged pistons and the heads as I test drove it, which brought the need for a full engine rebuild a year later.


6.The rear watts linkage will not tolerate over 500HP ,neither the stock axles ,if you get traction.I have broken both drag racing mine with traction. sponsors on this site sell upgraded units, and I would also reinforce where they mount to the frame/under$200 /frame/exhaust shop.

7.If you upgrade to Kenne Bell later, start saving for a performance tranny.Our stock 4r70w/AODE dont last long about 500HP, maybe a year or two.

8.Keep the stock cams if you do most driving on the streets and highway.
The duration and overlap built in these aftermarket cams, are not boost friendly in low rpms, and the stock cams are perfect till 4500rpm, when the aftermarket cams kicks in.

Not to mention, degreeing these cams are a pain in the rear.
Total waste of money.Instead, get a pulley to pull more power if needed.

9.Stock valve springs are ok, Upgrading mine made about a 36rwhp difference, but I have VERY LARGE CAMSHAFTS and race a lot.

10.Beware of crooked tuning facilities and jealousy.If your car runs ok now, you only need one dyno tune usually.Don't be fooled into buying their parts or service and multiple tunes.
Ask us for a list of reputable tuners.
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2000 CV
5.4 LIGHTNING SWAP +4 psi pulley
350 HP
450 Lbs Torque

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#2731174 - 07/07/13 11:58 AM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: AODE]
Ari Offline

Climber

Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 594
Loc: Central New Jersey
Originally Posted By: AODE
Nice build! I see Im not the only one to feel the pain of a
swap like this lol.
1. 1 pump only.
2. Put fans on the heat exchanger grille area.
5.If you are using a crown vic computer and not a cobra, it should of never been driven without a tune.The vic's ecm will spike a lean wot sometimes, not knowing what to do,.
6.The rear watts linkage will not tolerate over 500HP ,neither the stock axles ,if you get traction.I have broken both drag racing mine with traction. sponsors on this site sell upgraded units, and I would also reinforce where they mount to the frame/under$200 /frame/exhaust shop.
7.If you upgrade to Kenne Bell later, start saving for a performance tranny.Our stock 4r70w/AODE dont last long about 500HP, maybe a year or two.


I havent had any problems yet with a single pump, and I don't really have a need for fans on the heat exchangers right now because my IAT's are staying really low. My stock computer has been tuned to run the new engine, the car has just not been DYNO tuned yet. I have a brand new metco watts link sitting in the box waiting for when I do my rear, and I will reinforce the mounts as well as the control arm mounts when I do the rear. I also plan on doing a t-56 magnum swap so the transmission isn't a huge concern of mine currently

I have brand new front and rear coils and new front struts (rear shocks I installed already) that are waiting to go on the car, and after I get alignment issues, etc, worked out, I will order wheels and tires, and a big brake kit. After I get the car ironed out with all of that stuff, I will worry about the 6 speed swap, and then i'll worry about any additional performance mods.

Thanks for the input.
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2003 P71. (Winner of POTM for November 2014!)
In the process of coyote swapping!
Formerly 4.6L iron block, built bottom end, 4v Cobra heads, built rear end, VMP TVS supercharger, t56 magnum 6 speed swap, too many other mods to list.

593rwhp/568rwtq

Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#2763446 - 10/02/13 09:55 AM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
Ari Offline

Climber

Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 594
Loc: Central New Jersey
New wheels and tires!!

She's also lowered, and i'll have to get some good pictures of the car the way she sits right now. I got a set of eaton detroit -1.5" front lowering springs which luckily turned out just fine, and a set of custom made rear coil springs -1.0" from coilsprings.com as per [email protected]'s suggestion. Front struts are KYB's and the rear shocks right now are new cvpi ones.

2009 mustang gt500 wheels (all four are 18x9.5") and I got a new set of tires up front which are some sumitomo 255/45/18's. Still waiting on the rear tires to come in, I ordered me up some sumitomo 275/40/18's for now, I guess i'll have to get a set of drag radials also. ;-)

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2003 P71. (Winner of POTM for November 2014!)
In the process of coyote swapping!
Formerly 4.6L iron block, built bottom end, 4v Cobra heads, built rear end, VMP TVS supercharger, t56 magnum 6 speed swap, too many other mods to list.

593rwhp/568rwtq

Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#2763468 - 10/02/13 11:45 AM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
BlackVic_P71 Offline
Grand Poobah

Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 14597
Loc: LI, NY
Looks great!


Edited by BlackVic_P71 (10/02/13 11:46 AM)
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Originally Posted By Jeremy Clarkson
The future is very fast and extremely quiet...but a bit burny.

1989 Ford Crown Victoria Country Squire - 347
2005 Crown Victoria LX Sport with Stainless Works full exhaust, Addco swaybars, Heinous control arms, Powerslot rotors, Hawk HPS pads
Accufab plenum for a DBW Panther
Blue LED buttons/switches how to

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#2763487 - 10/02/13 12:39 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
STLVIC Offline

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Registered: 10/28/12
Posts: 706
Loc: Minnesota


Moar pichers!
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2004 MGM - Ice Blue - Tastefully Modded
Former Panther: 2006 Interceptor - POTM - March 2013 - Mods:
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Drivetrain: 2nd CAT delete, Summit Racing mufflers, ported/polished plenum and TB, Transmission J-Mod and upgraded internals, Summit Racing underdrives, Ford Racing 3.73s, BOC 87 Octane Tune, 170 degree T-Stat, Brake Motive drilled and slotted rotors, PowerStop ceramic pads.
Best ET: 15.05 @ 91.15 MPH, not bad for bolt-on's grin

Exterior: Tinted windows, Mustang GT Premium wheels - black w/ aluminum caps and Nitto NT450's (255 front, 275 rear), Lowered 1.25" all four corners, S55 black tail lights, blacked out headlights and corners, fog lights, Mach 1 chin spoiler.
Other Rides:
2008 F350 King Ranch CCLB DRW - 6.4L Diesel, Deleted, Tuned, Exhaust
1984 Olds Cutlass - 468 Big Block Olds
1984 Ford Bronco II - trail and camping rig!


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#2763501 - 10/02/13 01:28 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
freewayfuntime Offline
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Registered: 03/24/09
Posts: 513
Loc: Oakland, CA
Only 1 pick? What a tease lol. Look good.
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03'cvpi, slotted rotors, hawk pads, kyb gas adjusts.
18" fan blades 255/45s coming soon.


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#2763619 - 10/02/13 07:57 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
Ari Offline

Climber

Registered: 09/22/06
Posts: 594
Loc: Central New Jersey
Haven't had any time at all lately to get any pictures, i've just been working my ass off.

In other news, I'm scheduled for some dyno time next week!!!
_________________________
2003 P71. (Winner of POTM for November 2014!)
In the process of coyote swapping!
Formerly 4.6L iron block, built bottom end, 4v Cobra heads, built rear end, VMP TVS supercharger, t56 magnum 6 speed swap, too many other mods to list.

593rwhp/568rwtq

Special thanks to Chris @ ADTR.net and Kevin Hand @ Wicked Motorsports.

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#2763627 - 10/02/13 08:11 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
BlackVic_P71 Offline
Grand Poobah

Registered: 08/28/09
Posts: 14597
Loc: LI, NY
Originally Posted By: Ari
In other news, I'm scheduled for some dyno time next week!!!

Needs video of the car on the dyno.
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Originally Posted By Jeremy Clarkson
The future is very fast and extremely quiet...but a bit burny.

1989 Ford Crown Victoria Country Squire - 347
2005 Crown Victoria LX Sport with Stainless Works full exhaust, Addco swaybars, Heinous control arms, Powerslot rotors, Hawk HPS pads
Accufab plenum for a DBW Panther
Blue LED buttons/switches how to

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#2763629 - 10/02/13 08:14 PM Re: THE CobraCrownVic is ALIVE!! [Re: Ari]
2004_p71 Offline

no replacement for displacement
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Registered: 09/04/03
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Loc: Quebec Canada
we need to see moar !!!!
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