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#2889220 - 03/18/15 01:47 PM Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold
98lx Offline
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Registered: 04/24/05
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Loc: Woodbridge, NJ
Hi, I have a 2005 CV just 100k miles with coolant leaking under the thermostat housing
on the intake manifold. I had the same problem on my 98 lx .
I want to know if the Dorman intake is any good? It is much cheaper.
or can i fix the OE. seems like its leaking where the plastic meats the aluminium. has anyone had problems with these newer manifolds. I thoought they fixed this problem with this newer manifold.
Thanks everyone.
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#2889243 - 03/18/15 04:26 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
bluviclx98 Offline
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Registered: 06/28/13
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I would use the FRPP intake below for 239$. Some have not had good results with PI Dorman. I'm sure you have checked the thermostat gasket to rule it out along with upper radiator hose connection at housing. JMO

http://www.adtr.net/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_70&product_id=158

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#2889269 - 03/18/15 05:59 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
Jacksknight Offline
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Registered: 02/04/13
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Yep stick with the Ford intake and skip the Dorman. While it will work you are better off with the Ford part in this case.

Here is the same part on Amazon a bit cheaper too.

http://www.amazon.com/Ford-Racing-M9424P...Ford+Racing+4.6
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#2889353 - 03/19/15 09:59 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
Boss429 Offline
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Registered: 02/25/09
Posts: 135
Loc: Dayton,Ohio
Im a Ford racing parts dealer here and just got a note from Ford saying the FRPP PI manifold (great item) is on Back order from FRPP for the near future. You might want to stock up while they are still available.

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#2889401 - 03/20/15 02:36 AM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
98lx Offline
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Registered: 04/24/05
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Loc: Woodbridge, NJ
Thanks guys for your replies, thats what I was thinking.
I know its not the hose or the o ring. Again much thanks.
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#2889463 - 03/20/15 12:30 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: Boss429]
2004_p71 Offline

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Originally Posted By: Boss429
Im a Ford racing parts dealer here and just got a note from Ford saying the FRPP PI manifold (great item) is on Back order from FRPP for the near future. You might want to stock up while they are still available.


oh really ! Knowing that their intake are crap and this is a very common problem they are gonna stop selling them .. great F-word great !
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#2889470 - 03/20/15 12:50 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
Chevyguy Offline

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Registered: 01/05/04
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The FRPP intake was just selling off Production stock. Now that the 4.6 is dead, the parts are drying up.

Most of the time, you can fix the leak on the updated type Ford intake You can see on this picture the aluminum crossover corrodes and causes leaks against the plastic intake, note the white line between the plastic and aluminum


Read here

https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2488212


Edited by Chevyguy (03/20/15 12:55 PM)
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#2889509 - 03/20/15 06:33 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 2004_p71]
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oh really ! Knowing that their intake are crap and this is a very common problem they are gonna stop selling them .. great F-word great ! [/quote]The Manifold was on a list of items that Ford sent me via E-mail that would be delayed or on National back-order due to to a parts shortage of items in the intake kit...Ford said the Intake would NOT be discontinued.

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#2889558 - 03/20/15 10:30 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
2004_p71 Offline

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heres some better shot of the problems on this intake.







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#2889723 - 03/22/15 03:48 AM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
98lx Offline
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Registered: 04/24/05
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Loc: Woodbridge, NJ
That's what I think mine is doing. What do I need to fix the one I have? A gasket set? Thank you for mentioning that!
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#2889737 - 03/22/15 10:11 AM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
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Originally Posted By: 98lx
That's what I think mine is doing. What do I need to fix the one I have? A gasket set? Thank you for mentioning that!
A new intake. Once the plastic supporting the seals gives up like in Pier's pictures, the intake is as good as dead. I had a Dorman fail in the same way on my Townie last summer.
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#2889797 - 03/22/15 06:34 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
bluviclx98 Offline
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Whats sad is how many times they have redesigned the intake and still has problems. Sure seems like a opportunity for some aftermarket company to get it right and make some money in the process. argh
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#2889836 - 03/22/15 11:27 PM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: bluviclx98]
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Registered: 07/05/13
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Loc: New Mexico, USA
Originally Posted By: bluviclx98
Whats sad is how many times they have redesigned the intake and still has problems. Sure seems like a opportunity for some aftermarket company to get it right and make some money in the process. argh


True.

Mine was leaking a little when I got the car. Separated the water crossover from the manifold and repaired the plastic with Acraglas. Used a new manifold gasket to seal against the engine, and an old style flat gasket to seal the crossover to the repaired plastic part. After 6 months and several thousand miles, no leaks. Will see how long it lasts.
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#2889855 - 03/23/15 02:41 AM Re: Coolant leak on newer 2005 intake manifold [Re: 98lx]
cruz07 Offline
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When I got my 98' I was looking around and seeing how I could replace my intake with the newer style one. After a week of looking after I got the car I realized that the previous owner had already swapped out the intake. It never gave me any issues either, not even when I traded it off.
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