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#2924917 - 10/25/15 11:37 PM Corning lights
alanack6795 Offline
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I used to have a Old Lincoln continental. It was a 1995 and a cool car, anyways it had a cornering light, which was a mini head light pointing sideways. It only came on when the turn signal was on on (and headlights i think). It did not flash.

It looks like when you add the MM and MGM to a CV they stay on with the headlights Is there anyway to make it work like the older style ones?
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#2924925 - 10/26/15 12:54 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: alanack6795]
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My 2004 Grand Marquis has cornering lights, and they operate exactly like your old Lincoln's did.
The Multifunction Switch has a dedicated switch pole for the cornering lamp function on the Grand Marquis; according to my Wiring Manual, connection terminals for the cornering lamps are present on a separate connector... 202c, which does not appear to exist on Crown Vic models.
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#2924933 - 10/26/15 01:41 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: Ponyguy]
Quasar Offline
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Originally Posted By Ponyguy
My 2004 Grand Marquis has cornering lights, and they operate exactly like your old Lincoln's did.
The Multifunction Switch has a dedicated switch pole for the cornering lamp function on the Grand Marquis; according to my Wiring Manual, connection terminals for the cornering lamps are present on a separate connector... 202c, which does not appear to exist on Crown Vic models.


Didnt have to touch the multifunction switch on my 03

Gmq/marauder corners and cornering lamps are a plug and play upgrade on 03-05 crown vics.. AS LONG AS you have 4 wires going into the corner lamp harness at the quik disconnect in the fender. If you have four wires, get the 03-05 gmq corner lamp wire harnesses. Do the necessary modifications to fit gmq/marauder corner lenses (writeup in body of knowledge but use the 03-05 corner harness on your 05 vic) and ypur done.


Edited by Quasar (10/26/15 01:42 AM)

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#2925053 - 10/26/15 05:03 PM Re: Corning lights [Re: alanack6795]
BlackVic_P71 Offline
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My 2005 CVPI had 2 wires at the corner light, my 2005 Sport had all the wiring for the cornering light in the plug, they were built a day apart in the same week so I doubt it was a cutoff for with/without the wiring.
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#2925083 - 10/26/15 06:34 PM Re: Corning lights [Re: BlackVic_P71]
Quasar Offline
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Originally Posted By BlackVic_P71
My 2005 CVPI had 2 wires at the corner light, my 2005 Sport had all the wiring for the cornering light in the plug, they were built a day apart in the same week so I doubt it was a cutoff for with/without the wiring.


Absolutely true, its just something that you need to check on your vehicle. I remember hearing about another member that ran into that issue, but his was an 06. It definitely seems that the switch began happening on some 05's probably depending on option packages etc.

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#2925339 - 10/28/15 09:21 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: alanack6795]
73vwTodd Offline
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Just want to add... I added the newer Grand Marquis cornering lights to my 2002 Crown Victoria LX. It was plug and play. I didn't have to do ANYTHING with the wiring. The corner light comes on only when I use the turn signals.

Only thing I did do was drill another hole in the fiberglass core support, and then drilled a hole through the cornering light so I could re-use the stainless screw that the Crown Victoria uses to attach the end of the lens to the fender.

Everything else was plug and play.

I assume at least the 2001 model year would also be the same, so we can say now then that 01-06 is plug and play.

Note, I only have THREE leads / wires coming off the harness on my Crown Victoria. The old pigtail for the Crown Vic only had two wires receiving it.

I think I ended up using pigtails from a 2002 Grand Marquis in the junkyard.. which while it is a 4-lead connector, it only had 3 leads in it.

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#2925346 - 10/28/15 10:10 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: 73vwTodd]
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Originally Posted By 73vwTodd
Just want to add... I added the newer Grand Marquis cornering lights to my 2002 Crown Victoria LX. It was plug and play. I didn't have to do ANYTHING with the wiring. The corner light comes on only when I use the turn signals.

Only thing I did do was drill another hole in the fiberglass core support, and then drilled a hole through the cornering light so I could re-use the stainless screw that the Crown Victoria uses to attach the end of the lens to the fender.

Everything else was plug and play.

I assume at least the 2001 model year would also be the same, so we can say now then that 01-06 is plug and play.

Note, I only have THREE leads / wires coming off the harness on my Crown Victoria. The old pigtail for the Crown Vic only had two wires receiving it.

I think I ended up using pigtails from a 2002 Grand Marquis in the junkyard.. which while it is a 4-lead connector, it only had 3 leads in it.
That would be due to the fact that an '02 GMQ has an inboard turn signal like a Vic. The 4 wires are: Park, Corner, Turn, and Ground. '98-'02 GMQ turn signal wires would come off the headlight harness like they do in a Vic. Aero GMQ/Vic as well as '03+ GMQ have front turn signals that plug into that pigtail behind the side marker, so they have that 4th (turn) wire in them. Since well-optioned Vics and GMQs used the same body harness, you'll likely find at least the park, ground, and corner wires running to that 4-pin connector behind the marker on most years. CVPI and base model cars used a different body harness and you'll probably only find the park and ground wires.

FWIW, that round 4-pin connector behind the marker is the same '92+, its just a matter of how many wires are running to it. I do not know if the pin-out ever changed, but I doubt it, and a test-light would quickly verify whats what. Ground is a black wire and park is a brown wire on all years. When I added cornering lights to my '96 GMQ GS (only Aero LS had them factory), it was a matter of swapping in the harness from an LS as well as the correct housings.
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#2925375 - 10/28/15 11:33 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: BigMerc96]
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Originally Posted By BigMerc96
Originally Posted By 73vwTodd
Just want to add... I added the newer Grand Marquis cornering lights to my 2002 Crown Victoria LX. It was plug and play. I didn't have to do ANYTHING with the wiring. The corner light comes on only when I use the turn signals.

Only thing I did do was drill another hole in the fiberglass core support, and then drilled a hole through the cornering light so I could re-use the stainless screw that the Crown Victoria uses to attach the end of the lens to the fender.

Everything else was plug and play.

I assume at least the 2001 model year would also be the same, so we can say now then that 01-06 is plug and play.

Note, I only have THREE leads / wires coming off the harness on my Crown Victoria. The old pigtail for the Crown Vic only had two wires receiving it.

I think I ended up using pigtails from a 2002 Grand Marquis in the junkyard.. which while it is a 4-lead connector, it only had 3 leads in it.
That would be due to the fact that an '02 GMQ has an inboard turn signal like a Vic. The 4 wires are: Park, Corner, Turn, and Ground. '98-'02 GMQ turn signal wires would come off the headlight harness like they do in a Vic. Aero GMQ/Vic as well as '03+ GMQ have front turn signals that plug into that pigtail behind the side marker, so they have that 4th (turn) wire in them. Since well-optioned Vics and GMQs used the same body harness, you'll likely find at least the park, ground, and corner wires running to that 4-pin connector behind the marker on most years. CVPI and base model cars used a different body harness and you'll probably only find the park and ground wires.

FWIW, that round 4-pin connector behind the marker is the same '92+, its just a matter of how many wires are running to it. I do not know if the pin-out ever changed, but I doubt it, and a test-light would quickly verify whats what. Ground is a black wire and park is a brown wire on all years. When I added cornering lights to my '96 GMQ GS (only Aero LS had them factory), it was a matter of swapping in the harness from an LS as well as the correct housings.



So correct me if I'm wrong, but it's safe to say that if you want cornering wires, just use the same pigtail harness from the same-year Grand Marquis as your year Crown Victoria?

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#2925382 - 10/28/15 11:56 AM Re: Corning lights [Re: alanack6795]
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Yep. Well, the pigtail harness than matches whatever side markers you are using since they did change the bulb sockets a bit. Like I said, that connector is the same on all of them as far as I know so its theoretically a plug and play swap. Exception being CVPIs which only have 2 wires at that connector for most years since they used a different body harness and never had cornering lamps.
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