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#3591010 - 03/29/17 11:46 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: GM_Guy]
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Originally Posted By GM_Guy
Because it meets spec. Spec doesn't mean its the best solution. But Spec costs less...

And simply "meeting spec" generates recalls and disgruntled customers. And in the case of failing headlights, physical danger to the vehicle's occupants.
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#3591746 - 03/30/17 05:24 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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Originally Posted By Ponyguy

And simply "meeting spec" generates recalls and disgruntled customers. And in the case of failing headlights, physical danger to the vehicle's occupants.


Well, we know how the accounting for that situation works out...




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#3608658 - 04/13/17 03:51 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
TagJr Offline
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I just checked my vin. Says remedy not available. Will all owners get a recall notice?

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#3609170 - 04/13/17 11:34 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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Assuming that Ford has your correct address on file then yes. But the notice wont tell you when parts are in stock.

You will need to call your local dealer of choice and have them look into it, they will need to have their parts guy check inventory.
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#3609186 - 04/13/17 11:54 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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I've been running a $15 junkyard LCM. Way better than letting the dealer get their paws on my car.
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#3610098 - 04/14/17 10:33 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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Brought mine to Ford a few years back when the first recall came out. Have not had any problems since.

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#3624905 - 04/30/17 01:06 AM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: Ponyguy]
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Originally Posted By Ponyguy
Originally Posted By GM_Guy
Because it meets spec. Spec doesn't mean its the best solution. But Spec costs less...

And simply "meeting spec" generates recalls and disgruntled customers. And in the case of failing headlights, physical danger to the vehicle's occupants.
As they say; "good enough for government work."
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#3640057 - 05/15/17 08:44 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
Medjai Offline
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Actually had this done today. The Car lot I got it from had a hot going from the headlight switch to the fuse box in the car, which I had a toggle on to turn the lights on and off. I unhooked all of that and let them handle it. After Ford installed the Bypass they said the headlights are still inoperative saying its "due to aftermarket lighting". I have LED bulbs and they worked fine before. I am just wondering if it could actually be the switch itself or something else. Any help would do.

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#3656938 - 06/07/17 08:44 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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So this happened. Got the recall notice for the 04 MGM and dutifully scheduled to get it done. Car went in two weeks ago today. Now keep in mind reading this, that I had just done my quarterly oil change, bumper to bumper check including lights just 4 days earlier. Picked up the car and all seemed well. Noticed Saturday a headlight burned out. Changed it. Turned headlights to manual on. They don't work. Still works on auto. Hi beams work as normal. I had used manual headlight on to check lights when i did maintenance. There were no issues before going to dealer. Back it went today. They tell me that they didn't mess up.It is after all a plug and play harness deal. They want $243 to replace the headlight switch. It's bad they say. Wow. awfully coincidental. I told them to leave it alone. The wife has it or i'd check it out instead of writing this. I will check it tomorrow night. If is bad, I can get a motorcraft switch from Rock Auto for $57. But the big question. Coincidence or a screw job? Opinions welcome. Thx
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#3658578 - 06/10/17 03:47 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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It's probably not the switch.
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#3658634 - 06/10/17 05:25 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: Black_Sunshine]
buckiniowa Offline
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You're right, it ain't the switch. Just pulled it and it checked out fine. I see the tech just pierced the headlight wire from the switch to check for circuit. the switch shows continuity at all settings. Funny thing though. When I pilled out the switch from the harness, the parking lights and chime went on. I'm now looking to see if he spliced wrong wire to ground. Thanks to whoever posted the tech pics on the previous page. it's gonna help.
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#3658642 - 06/10/17 05:42 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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The headlights are supposed to default to on if the switch is unplugged.
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#3658706 - 06/10/17 07:29 PM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
buckiniowa Offline
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I appreciate the info. I'm doing the trace now. I'm pretty sure there's either an open or the lcm itself. worked fine before going into the shop.
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#3659026 - 06/11/17 01:38 AM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: buckiniowa]
Medjai Offline
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I would take it right back up there and tell them to fix their screw up. Same thing happened to me but nothing worked on mine except blinkers and brake lights. They told me the techs get "overzealous" on recalls. Needless to say, (on my end) the tech didnt check the LCM, so I also got a new LCM. All for free. laugh

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#3659074 - 06/11/17 02:50 AM Re: 03-05 Headlight recall 15S39. NEW for April 2017 [Re: LTC_Dave]
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Recalls don't pay well, so any tech that gets one is likely to rush through it.
Take it back and speak to the manager.
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