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#3997834 - 12/08/18 10:55 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Thank you for continuing to come back and provide updates. I love this project.

That front-facing throttle body is nifty.
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#3997970 - 12/10/18 06:16 PM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: a_d_a_m]
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Originally Posted By a_d_a_m
Thank you for continuing to come back and provide updates. I love this project.

That front-facing throttle body is nifty.


Thanks man, Yea No Problem. Yea I think when its finished the front facing throttle body will be a nice touch.
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#4039058 - 12/07/19 12:20 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Any updates?
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#4046392 - 02/05/20 06:33 PM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: 78LTD460PI]
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Yes, Got an update ready that I will be uploading today hopefully.
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#4046394 - 02/05/20 06:47 PM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Have an update today with a new YouTube video and pictures (below) of cutting out the floor to get the frame to fit and test fitting some stuff.

In this video I cut out all the parts of the unibody Mercury Montego wagon floorboard to get the crown vic frame swap to fit / tuck all the way in. I had to cut into rear torque boxes, remove more of the front toquue boxes, and put a gap in the rocker panels. Basically remove all the floorboard above the rearend too.

When the frame was fitting ok I then test fit the stock wheels and the 5.4 4v engine to see if there will be any problem areas. The frame for the most part fits in nice, but there is some issue with the fender wells that will need looked at. Either I need to flare the rear fenders or do some different wheel / tire combo. The front fender should only need some minor work for everything to fit. Also the engine fits good at the firewall, and looks like adding the transmission will only need some minor cutting.

This part was a lot of work, as I'm trying to retain as much of the original sheet metal as possible, and was going slow and steady not to cut too much. If anyone has some ideas on the fender / wheel problem I'm all ears.

The next video will be cleaning up all the edges, making body mounts, and mounting the body to the frame. Also if you have any questions, ideas to talk about, or anything i can help with just let me know. i will get back to you asap.

Thanks, have a good day.











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#4046492 - 02/06/20 09:22 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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You could probably fit '03+ Panther (or '05+ Mustang) wheels under that and be good to go. The amount of stick-out you have on the rear fenders looks like roughly what you get when you put '98-'02 wheels on a '03+ Panther. With the '03 frame redesign, the front and rear suspension was made wider, so the wheels changed from a near-zero-offset to an almost FWD like high positive offset (IIRC its +35mm on a 16x7" wheel) while retaining the same bolt pattern and hub size. Mustangs did the same thing with the '05 redesign, '03+ Panthers and '05+ Mustang wheels are interchangeable.
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#4046502 - 02/06/20 10:37 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Agree. '03+ wheels may be the trick. Worry that they might sit TOO far in, though, but that could be remedied with a 1/4" or so slip-on spacer to push them slightly back out.
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#4046726 - 02/08/20 02:26 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Originally Posted By BigMerc96
You could probably fit '03+ Panther (or '05+ Mustang) wheels under that and be good to go. The amount of stick-out you have on the rear fenders looks like roughly what you get when you put '98-'02 wheels on a '03+ Panther. With the '03 frame redesign, the front and rear suspension was made wider, so the wheels changed from a near-zero-offset to an almost FWD like high positive offset (IIRC its +35mm on a 16x7" wheel) while retaining the same bolt pattern and hub size. Mustangs did the same thing with the '05 redesign, '03+ Panthers and '05+ Mustang wheels are interchangeable.


Originally Posted By a_d_a_m
Agree. '03+ wheels may be the trick. Worry that they might sit TOO far in, though, but that could be remedied with a 1/4" or so slip-on spacer to push them slightly back out.


Thanks for your guys help. I was reading about the offsets at this post ... https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1061930 ... I was thinking it was saying I would only gain a half inch overall by switching, but I wasn't sure. I do have a small spacer plate laying around, so I will probably experiment with that and some different wheels. I do have a set of universal 5 spoke wheels I could test too, but not sure how i would like the look. I really like the steelies.


Edited by DesertRatRacer (02/08/20 02:26 AM)
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#4046744 - 02/08/20 08:17 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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You'll get a lot more than a half inch. Going from a 6mm offset to a +50mm offset, it's more like 1-3/4 per side. That should be enough to tuck them right in. Newer steelies don't look that different from what you've got, just not as much dish.
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#4046848 - 02/09/20 06:24 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: Old_Guy_Stu]
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Originally Posted By Old_Guy_Stu
You'll get a lot more than a half inch. Going from a 6mm offset to a +50mm offset, it's more like 1-3/4 per side. That should be enough to tuck them right in. Newer steelies don't look that different from what you've got, just not as much dish.


Ok cool Thanks, I got you, for some reason I was thinking the newer style wheels were 0 offest.
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#4077954 - 09/16/20 08:42 PM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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I finally got a parts car that I needed. It will help a lot with the damaged and missing parts on my Mercury Montego wagon. Basically now I only need a clutch / flywheel setup, hydroboost brake setup, and possible driveshaft. I will probably need more but that is the rest of the obvious stuff. I'll link a video and pictures below to check out the 1969 Ford Torino Station Wagon parts car.

















Edited by DesertRatRacer (09/16/20 08:44 PM)
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#4077960 - 09/16/20 09:21 PM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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I haven't seen one of those in years. Up here they were all rusted away by 1975.
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#4077998 - 09/17/20 12:16 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: Old_Guy_Stu]
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luckily this one made it out alive. I need the parts. banana
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#4078010 - 09/17/20 07:32 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Damn, that parts car is a restorable rig up here.
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#4078022 - 09/17/20 09:10 AM Re: 68 Ford Build with Crown Vic Frame Swap / Install [Re: DesertRatRacer]
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Yep, only needs an interior and mechanical resto. Both of those will stay done, unlike rust repair. Or you could Roadkill it by dropping a crate engine in there and drive it as is.
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