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#4001232 - 01/17/19 08:33 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
PYPY Offline

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A most excellent tutorial, GM_Guy...thanks for posting it, sir.

I currently have an intermittent dimming odometer situation regarding my ’07 P71 that I purchased new in 2007. Unfortunately, this fix is way above my pay grade...I’d screw the pooch in no time.
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#4004100 - 02/13/19 09:54 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
billbishop7575 Offline
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Registered: 02/12/19
Posts: 20
Loc: NJ
Going to try this with my F150 damn odometer keeps cutting out intermitently

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#4015696 - 05/27/19 09:02 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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All the pics are dead...........
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#4026308 - 08/07/19 01:01 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
TheBrownNote Offline
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Registered: 01/16/17
Posts: 72
Loc: Texas
I've used Module Repair Pro before (ebay and their own homepage) They repair our clusters and ABS modules. They rebuilt a module for me and it works great and for like $150-200 bucks.

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#4026314 - 08/07/19 02:25 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: TheBrownNote]
Hoonigan413 Offline
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Registered: 08/03/19
Posts: 9
Loc: Ware, MA
If you don't mind my asking, about how long did it take for them to receive, fix and then send back to you? I was looking into them unfortunately my car is my daily so the least amount of time down the better
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#4044412 - 01/22/20 04:12 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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Registered: 01/07/18
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Loc: BC, Canada
is anybody else unable to see the photos that were posted? Is it something on my end, or is this so old the pictures have faded off??? lol. Please let me know. thank you

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#4044416 - 01/22/20 05:05 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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It is the forum that has borked up photos, can't attach anything either. If you pull your cluster, the primary parts that need touching up should be apparent, especially the 2009+ cluster as they integrated a whole lot of components at that time.

Alex.
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#4046638 - 02/07/20 11:27 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
bugmenot Offline
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Registered: 12/03/13
Posts: 1
Loc: United States
I had the images saved up on my computer. Here you guys go https://imgur.com/a/OXDr0VF

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#4046664 - 02/07/20 05:22 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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Hey thanks for posting those!
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#4050162 - 03/04/20 11:19 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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UPDATE: So far i'm on #2 successfully repaired. I will do two more this month a let y'all know if these are a success.

I got a different type of "no clean" reflow flux that is advertised on ebay for playstation reflow work. You put it on and watch it close as you reflow with hot air. Then you do NOT clean it off. It will act as a protective barrier coat from vibration and moisture. I switch to it on all my electronics and although it looks horrible, it works every time.

I also found a bunch of small chips that require reflow, by taking close up photos of the ones coming back from A/R speedometer.

Time will tell but so far the two I repaired that were dead, are still working perfect. If this success continues I will be sure to update again with hi res photos and a slightly lengthened tutorial.
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#4050346 - 03/05/20 02:54 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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SUCCESS........#3 fixed.

Good story for y'all. I decided to pull the cluster before going home to solder it up. It was loose in the dash ready to be unplugged when it agically came alive. It showed it had ZERO fuel and the low fuel light was on. Just getting the car its typical for the auction to sell them with little to no gas at all. When attmepting to fill the tank, it all bubbled up all over my shoes and the tank would not take any more fuel. This is common when the vent tube is installed wrong and I have experianced this many times.

After resoldering the instrument cluster I found that the tank was full all along. The state of pa gave me a full tank with this car, that was worth the bad instrument cluster all day long.

Works perfect and passed my flex test. I reassembled and now the wait begins to see if my soldering skills pay off.


Edited by Fordiesel69 (03/05/20 02:56 PM)
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#4065126 - 05/29/20 11:16 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: Fordiesel69]
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Registered: 01/11/19
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Loc: HB, CA
I hope you can find some time to create a tutorial. I had my cluster out a few times with no luck, blank odometer. Would love to know how many miles my car has and how many hours. I'm at the end of a year long process to repaint it so I'm hoping it doesn't have a ton of hours.
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#4065136 - 05/29/20 11:54 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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Did you hot air reflow the main IC? If so, you may just have a cluster that isn't going to come back to life. Time to keep an eye out for another one.
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#4069018 - 06/28/20 03:49 PM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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There's a YouTube video of someone remelting some of the soldering points on and around the odometer and that's what I did. I've soldered plenty of wires together but I'm not expert on soldering especially soldering on a circuit board. I've looked into it some but I'm unclear what hot air reflowing is
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2007 Crown Victoria P71 CHP and Saddleback College (7/19'-Present) 139,000 mi, 4888 idle hours, 1000 painting hours
Alpine 0850x DSP, Hertz Millie 6.5" woofers in doors, Hertz Mille Tweeters with Audison Voce Midrange in custom A-pillars, two SKAR VXF 15's in trunk, some of the rear firewall was cut out and then I welded in a square steel bracket to help with rattling, sound deadening everywhere, closed cell foam to stop anything from rattling, custom fiberglass center console to house DSP controller and phone, I don't use my head unit I go from Iphone 13 to an apple camera adaptor, to a Topping D10S which I only use for a usb to coax converter, not a DAC, then on to my DSP.

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#4069062 - 06/29/20 08:45 AM Re: Dim/Flickering Odometer Fix [Re: GM_Guy]
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Ever watch Louis Rossman? That tool he uses to remove components is a hot air gun--think hair dryer on steroids. Due to the close spacing of the legs, and the tiny traces, using a regular soldering iron can be risky unless you got micro tips and a good magnifier to really see what you are contacting with the iron to reduce the risk of damaging anything. Hot air + paste flux usually does a good job of reflowing the solder that is already there.
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