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#4045296 - 01/29/20 08:39 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Yep it sure gets confusing on the new stuff. Too many choices. But for Panthers, you got green prior to '02/'03 and G-05/Gold for anything after that.

As far as coolant confusion, try a 2006 Volkswagen/Audi that doesn't have factory fill in it. That's the year they switched from...whatever color they used before, to the G-13 purple mid-year. I have no idea what mine is supposed to have, probably purple, but what is in it is definitely orange looking. Still, its not gummed up like a severely neglected conventional green system that has stop-leak in it, so I put more importance on getting that flushed out of the '98 and then I'll deal with the Audi.
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#4045304 - 01/29/20 09:03 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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I just changed coolant about a couple of weeks ago. It was hard to tell what color it was in the degas bottle. When draining the radiator, what came out looked sorta light green while draining. But when it was in the bottle, it was definitely a pale, clear orange color.

I delayed changing for a year or so, thinking I was going to install the new water pump that I bought when I thought I needed one. While waiting, I also picked up a new oil cooler with new hoses. Caused me to put it off for another year. I might have let it go too long. My last major maintenance thrash was in 14. Got to be more diligent.
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#4045374 - 01/29/20 07:01 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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My 2012 Fusion is a transition year (from Dark Green to Orange), but it has a sticker on the degas bottle that tells me which one to use (Orange, I have seen a 2012 in the junk yard with the Green sticker).
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#4045384 - 01/29/20 08:12 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Thank you very much, 85GT, for posting the link to the Ford coolant brochure.

That is very helpful information since it shows all Ford-Lincoln-Mercury cars over 1999 - 2013 !!

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#4045590 - 01/31/20 08:15 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Use Zerex G-05. If you flush with a LOT distilled water (think like 20 gallons) you should be able to get another 5 years or 100k out of the G-05 stuff. It's a good value compared to the cheaper coolant because you'll be flushing more often with the cheap stuff.

If you shop around or wait for sales you can get it for less than $20/Gal concentrate.

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#4045662 - 01/31/20 06:53 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: Bangster]
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Originally Posted By Bangster
My 2012 Fusion is a transition year (from Dark Green to Orange), but it has a sticker on the degas bottle that tells me which one to use (Orange, I have seen a 2012 in the junk yard with the Green sticker).


Those Fusions that used green didn't use the conventional green stuff, but a unique green flavor Ford called "Specialty Green Engine Coolant".
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#4046108 - 02/03/20 05:24 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Quick update: ZEREX G-05 coolant is now on sale at NAPA until Feb 29. ( at least here in SC )

$ 13.99 per gallon full strength.

$ 11.99 per gallon pre-diluted 50/50 mix.

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#4046138 - 02/03/20 09:37 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Originally Posted By TC2011BB
Quick update: ZEREX G-05 coolant is now on sale at NAPA until Feb 29. ( at least here in SC )

$ 13.99 per gallon full strength.

$ 11.99 per gallon pre-diluted 50/50 mix.

See that's the only coolant confusion that I have is why people buy pre-diluted when straight is practically the same price.
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#4046168 - 02/04/20 01:01 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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Universal coolants are mostly OAT based and tend to use 2-EHA, which you do not want in this particular system due to seal material compatibility. It's good in dry intake systems, or in systems where seals are designed to be used with coolant containing 2-EHA, but not this particular application. That doesn't make 2-EHA based coolants any better or worse, it all depends on application.

G-05 is an HOAT coolant that is phosphate free with low silicates, widely used by Ford and Chrysler. A good alternative to Motorcraft Gold, Mopar or Zerex G-05 is John Deere CoolGard-II.
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#4046184 - 02/04/20 08:59 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: jstew1974]
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Originally Posted By jstew1974
Use Zerex G-05. If you flush with a LOT distilled water (think like 20 gallons) you should be able to get another 5 years or 100k out of the G-05 stuff. It's a good value compared to the cheaper coolant because you'll be flushing more often with the cheap stuff.

If you shop around or wait for sales you can get it for less than $20/Gal concentrate.


Yep, this is what I did. The procedure is detailed in the BOK thread.

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#4046886 - 02/09/20 02:56 PM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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When I got my car it was 20 years old with the original what used to be green coolant in it. I've flushed the system a total of three times now. The last time putting all new hoses and reservoir on. The best way to flush the block is to use the heater hose connections on the block, forcing all the debris out of the lower radiator hose connection. Also use the hose and push water in from the lower hose connection as it will fill the block up and force water out of the heater hose connections on intake and block. It will also stir up coolant caught in tight areas, as when it drains it will go from clear to coolant again. I flushed mine very good the last time and used compressed air to get the hose water out of block, filled the block with 3 gallons of distilled water and blew that out as well. Got almost all of the water out of the block. I put a coolant filter on it and it plugged in 25 miles. Yeah, it was bad. I used G-05 coolant this time. No more universal coolant with 2-eha in it for me. I ran the Supertech coolant in my F250 for 8 years and keep going through timing cover gaskets. Gasket and silicone sealer is always like mush, never thought its probably the 2-eha additive causing the issue. Definitely don't want that stuff in the car anymore.
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#4046936 - 02/10/20 08:30 AM Re: Coolant Confusion..Do You Know ? [Re: TC2011BB]
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On my '74 Mopar 360, I resealed the engine and used paper Felpro gaskets w/ blue Permatex where necessary on the timing cover and water pump. "Universal" coolant hasn't eaten anything in 3 years, yet!
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