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#3954721 - 05/16/18 05:41 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: BigNSlow]
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Originally Posted By BigNSlow
Oh no worries, this was just a suggestion, you do your own thing.


I know but if I can make it better I will smile
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#3954841 - 05/16/18 09:45 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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Instead Of bending the Pedal why not use the stock Crown Vic Rectangle Pad? Wouldn't fill in the gap? Or you think it would be to much?
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#3955057 - 05/16/18 02:37 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: Bondfreak13]
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Originally Posted By Bondfreak13
Instead Of bending the Pedal why not use the stock Crown Vic Rectangle Pad? Wouldn't fill in the gap? Or you think it would be to much?

For the love of god I must have looked for 15 min trying to find the pictures I took of the bondurand cobra vic at stap in 2010 .The cars were done this way but they still had to cut the left side of it and it looked silly having different size of pads.
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#3955553 - 05/16/18 10:07 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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Many full size Muscle Cars of the 60's had rectangle Clutch and brake pads.
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#3956073 - 05/17/18 10:03 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: Bondfreak13]
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Originally Posted By Bondfreak13
Many full size Muscle Cars of the 60's had rectangle Clutch and brake pads.


That is not the point, when I'm getting the mustang assemblies I re use the steel pads and I buy new rubber pads also. I'm not going to try to source rectangular pads and brand new rubbers if I only have to move the brake pedal shaft and still use the mustang pads .
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#3956305 - 05/17/18 03:09 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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Originally Posted By 2004_p71
Originally Posted By Bondfreak13
Many full size Muscle Cars of the 60's had rectangle Clutch and brake pads.


That is not the point, when I'm getting the mustang assemblies I re use the steel pads and I buy new rubber pads also. I'm not going to try to source rectangular pads and brand new rubbers if I only have to move the brake pedal shaft and still use the mustang pads .


I don't have a set of your pedals, but every manual I've owned has those smaller pads, spaced the way you build them, and it's really handy if you're feet are large or if you're wearing work boots etc. I would think it's almost a safety issue if you were to put the pedals too close to each other?
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#3956313 - 05/17/18 03:14 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: reminc70]
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Originally Posted By reminc70
Originally Posted By 2004_p71
Originally Posted By Bondfreak13
Many full size Muscle Cars of the 60's had rectangle Clutch and brake pads.


That is not the point, when I'm getting the mustang assemblies I re use the steel pads and I buy new rubber pads also. I'm not going to try to source rectangular pads and brand new rubbers if I only have to move the brake pedal shaft and still use the mustang pads .


I don't have a set of your pedals, but every manual I've owned has those smaller pads and it's really handy if you're feet are large or if you're wearing work boots etc. I would think it's almost a safety issue if you were to put the pedals too close to each other?


Also, the larger pedal cars mentioned probably had them even farther apart. In the late 70s through the 80s pedal ergonomics advanced greatly due to European influences.

Also of note, the cars with the large rectangular pedals weren't capable of creating lateral g-forces. lol So you sat on the bench and ran them like a lady in church at an organ.
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#3981114 - 06/17/18 02:13 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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I modded the brake pedal this morning. It was actually very simple to do.

Using a shop press I straightened the existing bend in the pedal and then made a new bend higher up near the brake booster pin.

Now I gotta work on relocating my shifter further back so it comes out of the console correctly.


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#3981546 - 06/18/18 04:16 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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good job smile how much more to the right it is than before ?
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#3981658 - 06/18/18 09:35 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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Guess it would've been a good idea to take before and after measurements.

I am not sure but you should be able to see the difference when looking at the steering shaft location in the 2 pics.



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#3981746 - 06/18/18 10:50 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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oh yeah that a few inches non the less .
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#3983538 - 06/19/18 08:54 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: 2004_p71]
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Is there a 4 speed manual that works in our cars?
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#3986209 - 06/22/18 10:34 PM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: ClayBelt]
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I am almost done with my shifter relocation. I used a cheap Ebay T45 shifter and about $20 worth of hardware to move the shifter further back. Now it comes out of the console without having a long shifter arm extension. Shifter feel is much nicer now.

If someone wants to do something similar you can use a stock Ford shifter in the rear, inner tie rod or heim joint to create your new pivot point. The possibilities are endless.


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#3986281 - 06/23/18 12:03 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: ClayBelt]
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Originally Posted By ClayBelt
Is there a 4 speed manual that works in our cars?


not that I am aware of
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#3986289 - 06/23/18 12:04 AM Re: Manual transmission for the crown vic [Re: BigNSlow]
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Originally Posted By BigNSlow
I am almost done with my shifter relocation. I used a cheap Ebay T45 shifter and about $20 worth of hardware to move the shifter further back. Now it comes out of the console without having a long shifter arm extension. Shifter feel is much nicer now.

If someone wants to do something similar you can use a stock Ford shifter in the rear, inner tie rod or heim joint to create your new pivot point. The possibilities are endless.


very well done serge smile
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