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#4113654 - 06/27/21 08:49 PM Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria.
Liquid_Cool Offline
Stranger

Registered: 06/19/21
Posts: 5
Loc: Nebraska, USA



Hello Forum Members...

I recently picked up a 1998 Ford Crown Victoria w/ 67k miles on the clock. The car was originally purchased and driven in Mesa Arizona until the original owner passed in 2014. The vehicle had 60k miles on it when it was brought to Iowa in 2014 and it's averaged less than a 1000 miles a years since. It's never been driven in the snow.



As with all older cars she has a couple of problems I'm looking to solve and that is why I'm here on CrownVic.net. This site is a goldmine of information!



I actually almost passed on the car because the driver side switches were black, when all the other switches in the car were grey AND the door was creaking when I took it for the test drive...almost like someone had taken the door apart and didn't quite put it back together correctly. My first thought - electrical problems, so I tested every electrical device in the car until I was satisfied the following two problems are "hopefully" the only issues I'm going to be dealing with.

Currently, the passenger side window is not working. Neither switch on the passenger door/driver side door makes any noise at all when pressed in either direction. Essentially...the passenger side window is dead. I'm just glad it's dead in the up position.

Then there is the driver side door lock. When you press the switch to lock/unlock the doors...all of the other doors operate just fine, but the driver door. While it makes the noise like it's attempting to work...there is no movement in the mechanism up or down.

Really, that is it. Other than wanting to find some mats for my car. My interior is a K2 code, graphite stone (grey) interior and I was hoping to find some thick rubbber winter mats or OEM(or NOS)stock mats, but have struck out on both. I purchased some Husky #51052's, but didn't care for the way they fit. Does anyone have any other ideas on what I could do?

Best Regards,

Liquid_Cool









Edited by Liquid_Cool (06/27/21 08:51 PM)
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1998 Ford Crown Victoria - 67,588 miles


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#4114862 - 07/10/21 08:13 AM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
2004_p71 Offline

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very nice ride .
I always loved these hubcaps smile

welcome to the site
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#4114920 - 07/10/21 10:17 PM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
GiNX Offline
n00b

Registered: 04/12/21
Posts: 18
Loc: VA, USA
nice car man, that's a super clean ride for sure.

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#4115014 - 07/12/21 03:24 PM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
Dmblanch Offline
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Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 441
Loc: Utah
You're in luck, a window that doesn't respond to EITHER switch on the drivers or passenger side and makes no noise when switched is almost always the window motor. One of the most common faults on the CVic and extremely easy to fix. I've probably swapped a half dozen of them. The part is about $35 on ebay or amazon and the job is only about 30-45 minutes to do. Lots of videos on Youtube on how to do it. You probably WON'T have to replace the regulator, just the motor.

Do it yourself, because if you own any vic for any amount of time, you'll end up doing a couple. Very easy to do.

Your window switches don't match on the drivers side because they commonly fail and somebody replaced them with not the right color. If you look around a bit on Ebay you can find the right color and swap back but be very careful removing the switch plate from the door. They are commonly broken at the plastic clasps.

Mats are tough. I've never found a good middle road mat that looks nice (by middle road I mean short of full custom). NOS are impossible to find, and the laser fit stuff from Weathertech etc seems to disdain the crownvic market. My go to are some $35 rubber mats from Oreillys, but you won't find them in your color.


Edited by Dmblanch (07/12/21 03:28 PM)
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4115448 - 07/17/21 09:25 AM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
Liquid_Cool Offline
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Registered: 06/19/21
Posts: 5
Loc: Nebraska, USA
Thank your for the responses...

Funny thing about the passenger window being stuck. I recently was on a road trip and I had just hopped on the highway, turned on the radio and then hit the switch for the drivers side window without looking down...and I hit the passenger side switch instead. When I did this...the passenger window moved. It only moved about 1/2 an inch, but it actually did move. I was quite shocked by this revelation...I then proceeded to rolled it up, then down, up then down about a dozen times and it started moving further and further until it was opening/closing all the way!

So...for the first time since the owning the vehicle I was cruising down the highway with the radio blasting away and ALL the windows down enjoying the fresh air.

As I got closer to home, it started to look like rain and I was getting close to the driveway so I went to roll the window up...nothing. I tried the switch up/down a 100 times...nothing. It was only after I was in the driveway and the car had been sitting for a few minutes that the window started working again. It might have been my imagination, but the window seemed to work better when stopped? I don't know...

Does anyone have a clue as to what is going on here? After it was actually working, it worked like a boss. No hesitation whatsoever...almost felt as if the motor was new...it was going up/down fast and smooth.

The door lock continues to do the same thing. When I lock/unlock the doors...every door works perfectly except the drivers door. It only makes a grinding sound. Again with the driver door as the window, it recently worked to unlock the door, but only once! The car did sit for awhile, maybe that has something to do with it?

As far as the mats go...I've spent a lot of time looking around and I've settled on hopefully just finding myself a black thick rubber mat, winter mats I think they're called. Those are my favorite kind of mats for cars. Although, winter is a ways off and I think I'm going to hold out a little longer and keep looking for grey ones. If anyone has any ideas where to get decent mats for the crown vic, please speak up.


Best Regards,

Liquid Cool


Edited by Liquid_Cool (07/17/21 09:42 AM)
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#4115456 - 07/17/21 10:14 AM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
Dmblanch Offline
Member

Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 441
Loc: Utah
Yeah it’s still your window motor that’s failing that’s what they will do they will periodically spurt back to life for a few seconds and then go dead again. I suggest you leave it alone when you get it back into the opposition until you have a chance to change the motor leaving it in the opposition makes it better and easier if you have to change the regulator too.


Edited by Dmblanch (07/17/21 10:15 AM)
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4115458 - 07/17/21 10:16 AM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
Old_Guy_Stu Offline

Over the Hill

Registered: 04/28/19
Posts: 2539
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Don't think you can call it "decent" but this abomination:

has been through two winters without spilling a drop on the carpet.

Plastic work tray I found at Wally World, adapted for the purpose.

Weathertech makes a full-width floor liner for late-model LTC, but you'll have to cut it up as the tunnel is different. Didn't want to cut up a $140 mat, so I made the thing.

Your window could be old grease that's solidified, a stuck brush in the motor, or an intermittent switch failure. Hard to say on the internet.
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1988 CVLX Formal Roof (Love Boat) POTM July 2019 & Aug 2020, 56K
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#4115594 - 07/18/21 08:09 PM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
Dmblanch Offline
Member

Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 441
Loc: Utah
I meant to say "up position", of course, not opposition.

Freaking lousy Iphone autocorrect.

And if it's not responsive to BOTH switches, and doesn't making straining noises when flipping the switch (like it's trying to push but can't), it's the motor.


Edited by Dmblanch (07/18/21 08:11 PM)
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4118206 - 08/15/21 08:44 AM Re: Greetings from Nebraska! My First Crown Victoria. [Re: Liquid_Cool]
MIAMI-DADE Offline
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Registered: 06/19/05
Posts: 5427
Loc: Miami Beach&Brooklyn N.Y.
Welcome from Miami Beach! Nice find!
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05 Crown Vic/LX/260K miles [sold]
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