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#4119904 - 09/03/21 01:33 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
357cvpi Offline
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Registered: 11/13/20
Posts: 40
Loc: UT
Like anything else, a subwoofer can be taken to the absolute stupid level. There are so many automotive trends out there today that just scream room temperature IQ and you just described one of them. Ordinarily i don't care what people do, but this one annoys me about the same as the 'chipped' diesel trucks that lay out a huge plume of black smoke such that it impairs vision in traffic.

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#4119926 - 09/03/21 05:32 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Dmblanch Offline
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Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 458
Loc: Utah
My aftermarket touchscreen has arrived and it has the ability to power a subwoofer and amp so I’m going to try the splicing suggestion of the guy in the video and get back to you over the weekend whether or not it powers my OEM premium sound sub in the trunk. I’m guessing it won’t, either way it doesn’t much matter to me as I will put in an aftermarket unit. I’ll probably keep the premium speakers.

I can see why one would be tempted to keep the OEM subwoofer shroud and just put new guts inside of it because it’s a pretty compact, weatherproof and conveniently self-contained box mounted to the underside of the rear deck lid. I’ll probably do the same.


Edited by Dmblanch (09/03/21 05:35 PM)
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4120064 - 09/05/21 07:46 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Dmblanch Offline
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Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 458
Loc: Utah
Got the new 9" in today and I followed that guy with the video's instructions for how to connect an aftermarket headunit to the standard OEM subwoofer and amp and guess what?

...it worked beautifully with no amp pop as described in some video's. Amp and woof are controllable from the head unit, it gives a much richer sound when on then off. It respounds to equalizer presets for pop, rock classical etc., I can turn it off at the headunit if I want. All Equalizer and balance/fader functions work just fine. It sounds pretty good, better than stock without, better than any P71 sound I've ever had before. Just fine for my non audiophile tastes.

This $249 4gb/64gb unit is proving to be well worth the upgrade fees that I paid over a the $125 unit I bought last time. External WIFI antenna has MUCH greater range. This one get AM radio whereas the cheaper ones only get FM (but who listens to AM these days?). Very fast to boot, lots of on board storage, 4G sim card dongle included, tons of ins and outs connections, settings menus are very thorough.

Here's the one thing they never tell you that they should tell you:

There is a PINK wire coming off of the main cluster to the head unit. This will match up with a PINK wire on your standard ford harness adapter that you must buy to plug into your Ford OEM male plug end. It may be marked BACK UP or SPEED but whatever it's marked, do NOT connect the pink wire! It will prevent the Android head unit from booting. It will power on, but not boot. Cut the Pink wire, or simply don't connect it and everything else will work well.



Now to go through all the other functions, one by one to check them out. External mic works much better than the built-in, GPS is great, wi-fi antenna still isn't very sensitive, IPS screen isn't that great from extreme angles, but the fit in the space available is very good.


Edited by Dmblanch (09/06/21 12:17 AM)
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4120110 - 09/06/21 12:44 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Danger2manifold Offline
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Registered: 02/23/19
Posts: 253
Loc: Little Poland, CT
Very cool! Glad it worked out for you!
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Current Panther:
1999 Crown Victoria LX - 69,420 miles (nice) as of 1/27/21, Toreador red, 18x8 Anthracite Torq Thrust M's, AEM Dryflow panel filter, custom 2.25" dual exhaust with H-pipe, Magnaflow XL mufflers, Jones 22" long 4" slash cut tips, Kenwood KMM-BT225U head unit, PPI A600/4 4-channel amplifier, PPI i650.1 monoblock amplifier, Pioneer 6x8 2-way speakers, two 12" JBL subs in sealed enclosures, 2/2019 to present

Past Rides:
2003 Buick Regal GS Joseph Abboud edition - as close to a Grand National as I'll probably get, traded in 2/2019
1996 Lincoln Town Car Signature - 1st car ever bought, dubbed "The Emancipator" by friends, rear ended and totalled in 5/2016
2002 Buick Rendezvous CXL - passed to me by the folks, handed down to younger brother in 2/2015

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#4120124 - 09/06/21 03:59 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Dmblanch Offline
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Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 458
Loc: Utah
As an update to the testing and fiddling above, for the benefit of those who come after me, let me add:

1) I'm still struggling to nurse better reception out of the wifi antenna, at times it works at times it doesn't seem to want to connect or it drops signal. I'll get there.

2) I've now had FOUR different Android head units with four different versions of Android. They are all very different, nothing's ever in the same place, especially with settings. So to tweak everything the way you want is a new exploration of darkest Africa every time. One I had I could not figure out how to get the stock Speedo to read out in Miles per hour. Sold the car, never did figure it out. This one is Android 10 and its a bit better than the others, but still has its quirks. The stock launcher is plain and unattractive and the included radio and music player apps are blah. But the stock Equalizer app is good. I went straight to the Agama launcher that I've used before and bingo it unlocked a ton of features that weren't unlocked in previous versions, like the top volume control, voice inputs and other good stuff. But by the same token, it doesn't want to update the time based on GPS, don't know why.

My point is that if you get one of these things, you'll do some head scratching every time and you'll eventually get 9 out of 10 things working, but there will probably be that one pesky feature that you can't get working and it'll frustrate you.

For example, the stock am/fm radio app doesn't seem to be a stand-alone app, but instead is built into the os, so Agama can't find it to link to it. And no other live broadcast radio apps (that use the tuner chip and the over the airwaves signal) are available anymore. So I can get to the radio app, but it takes an extra click.

3) The trade off to the above one pesky feature is that 4 or 5 extra added features with the newer better machine come and work right out of the box automatically. Steering Wheel Contols was an easy set-up connect and I thought I'd struggle, voice command came on instantly without me doing anything, amp and subwoof were plug and play easy, external mic greatly improved phone call clarity.

4) The viewing angle with this screen is worse than with my older 10.1 screen. I'm going to have to mount this unit on a slight top forward tilt and slight right side further out tilt for optimum viewing clarity. It will still sit recessed in the dash area, but not quite flush and it will still be a ergonomic improvement over the 10.1"
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4120666 - 09/12/21 03:41 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
SDHOUHK07 Offline
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Registered: 03/22/20
Posts: 76
Loc: San Diego, CA
UPDATE: I ordered a SKAR audio 6.5 inch 2ohm dual voice coilover subwoofer speaker. That thing is HUGE, HEAVY and does not fit the MM factory subwoofer enclosure. Therefore, the project is on hold as I'm looking for a suitable replacement. Will be returning the SKAR audio sub. The MM factory subwoofer speaker is too weak. Currently deciding on a suitable, inexpensive 6.5 subwoofer speak that will fit nicely in the factory subwoofer enclosure.


Edited by SDHOUHK07 (09/12/21 03:47 PM)
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1998 Ford Crown Victoria LX HPP
-Medium Wedgewood blue metallic
-Dark denim blue leather interior
-LX HPP "BBS style" wheels

Mods so far:
-03-11 Defroster duct retrofit
-Sony XAV-AX1000
-2X JBL Club 8622F 6X8 in front doors
-Noico sound deadening material applied in both front doors
-USMEI Dual QC3.0 USB Charger Socket in place of OEM cigarette lighter
-Vleds 5K rear license plate bulb.
-Natika WD-011 Back up camera installed to the left of my California license plate
-Mercury Marauder factory subwoofer enclosure
-JBL Club 6X9 Rear deck speakers.

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#4120708 - 09/12/21 11:20 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Dmblanch Offline
Member

Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 458
Loc: Utah
I just got finished with a 45 minute play-around with all my equalizer buttons on my stock 2007 Premium sound sub/amp package9, controlled by my aftermarket headunit. Messed around with loudness, smartbass, filters and delay till I was pretty sure I hit everything. It worked really well. Could pull up the bass on an old Muddy Waters blues tune until all I could hear was fingers slapping that upright from the back. So I know it works and I confess it was pretty good. Then I dialed it back so that delay was focussed on my seat and left it in what sounded optimum to me. I'm content and going to leave it where it is right now.

Will it rattle the street at full volume? No, but if it ever did and actually played it like that in traffic you have my permission to shoot me.
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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#4120998 - 09/15/21 06:45 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: RF_Overlord]
Lance01 Offline
Climber

Registered: 04/02/18
Posts: 520
Loc: Pa
Originally Posted By RF_Overlord
Slightly off-topic, but I was once stuck in traffic near a vehicle with God's Own subwoofer. For over an hour, as I inched along, I was subjected to the most annoying series of booms, rattles, and buzzes. I guess I should have pulled off into the breakdown lane and waited for that horse-ass to go by, but I was already late for an appointment and kept hoping this nightmare would end soon.

I always thought a subwoofer was supposed to extend the frequency range downward, not completely crush it into a non-musical series of grunts, booms and rattles approaching the brown note. rolleyes

/rant



I got to admit I'm a bass head. I was a teen in the 1990s when car audio was still a big deal and at the height of popularity.

Systems back then sounded good (all USA made equipment) and the music put out back then was the best. I'm talking guys rolling down the street in 1992 Chevy astro vans with the the whole back filled with 10 or 12 inch Kicker/JL audio subs just booming that Masta Ace. It was a different time, it was amazing to see and feel.

Now days the young pups are buying the cheap equipment that is made in China (even big names from back in the day sold out), they're probably skipping out on using sound deadening such as Dynamat and the music that is made today is pure garbage.

Like I said, I'm a bass head and even when I'm at the stoplight and somebody has the music up it gets on my nerves. It's either clipping real bad because it's turned up too loud or it's f this and F that with panel noise comming from all over the place in a busted 2006 Chevy Impala.



If money was no problem I would do two Orion 15 HCCA subs in a custom made birch wood box in any panther. I would be respectful of other people on the road in the usage.. LoL

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#4121008 - 09/15/21 08:11 PM Re: MM factory subwoofer came in..what’s next? Tips? [Re: SDHOUHK07]
Dmblanch Offline
Member

Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 458
Loc: Utah
I just drove from Fresno to Utah in a 2006 MGM with "normal" sound system, no amp, no sub, stock base speakers. Really got on my nerves after the premium sound in my gray vic. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference.

Since this MGM was bought partially because it has the same interior as my Vic Sport so I could swap out its wood trimmed doors for the plain jane ones in my Vic, I'll be taking all the door panels off. Perfect opportunity to Dynamat all the doors and the rear seat, I suppose.
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1) 2002 White P71 - 89K miles. 2) 2003 B&W P71 - 74K. 3) & 6) & 11) 2005 White P71 - 54K, 74k, 115K. 4) 2011 Black P7B - 79K. 5) 2008 White P71 - 95k. 7) 2004 Silver P71 - 104K. 8) 2004 Toreador Red LX Sport - 111K. 9) & 10) 2010 White P7B SAP - 104K & 106K. 12) 2006 White P71 - scrapped. 13) 2007 Tungsten LX Sport - 125k. 14) 2006 White MGM LS Premium - 93k.

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