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#4125802 - 10/26/21 02:14 AM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
bluejay_32 Offline
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Originally Posted By GooneyBird
Yep, someone has definitely been in here before. However, the window regulator seemed fine. When testing the window I noticed a wiring loom pulling tight as the window went down before going "POINK!* and stopping the glass.

A quick rummage around in the door found that the loom belonging to this plug was going THROUGH the glass track, instead of AROUND. As the glass came down it'd catch the loom, and stop. Ugh, Previous Owner, why are you like this!

I did that when I was wiring in my passenger seat. Course I figured it out before I put it back together.


Edited by bluejay_32 (10/26/21 02:14 AM)
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#4126250 - 10/28/21 11:11 AM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: SocalSam]
GooneyBird Offline
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By SocalSam
Found RKE info. Note position of purple with yellow strip wire in gray connector and splice to door trunk release button. There is also some antenna info.

https://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3281442


Thanks! That makes the hunt for what I need a lot easier. smile

Next time I've got time to swing by the American car-yard I'll grab the things I need. The TC there is balanced rather precariously on top of something, so I'd rather get it all in one swoop than having to piece it together over several trips.
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#4126896 - 11/04/21 02:03 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
If you ever feel like you have no idea what you’re doing at your job, take into consideration the following:



Three junior techs at the local alignment shop were scratching their heads about why there are no alignment values for the rear wheels of a Crown Vic. After a little while I took pity on them and invited them to look under the car and explain to me how they were planning to adjust anything in case they’d actually find the relevant values.

Much hilarity ensued.

All’s well that ends well though. The Vic got aligned, many selfies were taken with the car, and I got a nice discount on the alignment. I’m not complaining.
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#4126928 - 11/04/21 10:45 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
Old_Guy_Stu Online   drunk

Over the Hill

Registered: 04/28/19
Posts: 2795
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Originally Posted By GooneyBird


Hey, you never know when you'll need stuff. What kind of speakers are we talking about here? Because I've got a spare Ford speaker from the junkyard, but would like to get a decent (and matching) set of front speakers in there at some point.


They're Ford factory speakers. I took 'em out after about a month, back in 2003. I'll double check to make sure they're 6x8 and not 5x7. Honestly, aftermarket speakers are a lot better, unless you're doing a 100-point concours restoration.


Edited by Old_Guy_Stu (11/04/21 10:46 PM)
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#4127400 - 11/10/21 03:02 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: Old_Guy_Stu]
GooneyBird Offline
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By Old_Guy_Stu

They're Ford factory speakers. I took 'em out after about a month, back in 2003. I'll double check to make sure they're 6x8 and not 5x7. Honestly, aftermarket speakers are a lot better, unless you're doing a 100-point concours restoration.


Thanks for looking. I've got a decently matched set in there right now, might go for 4 of the same aftermarket speakers at some point.

Also, UGH! Junkyards right now are frustrating. There's a junkyard nearby that deals in American cars, which this being Europe means it's decked out like a '50s diner, with a pink limo on top of the administrative building alongside a bad fiberglass Elvis. Anyway, since COVID is flaring up again here, it's operating under different guidelines. There are no people allowed on the yard itself, and you have to call ahead to reserve a part. I've had a videochat with one of the employees where he's shown me that there's an '06 LTC there with all the bits I need to install RKE on my Vic, but they haven't got the time to remove the parts... They're so backed up with assignments like this they just don't have the manpower for small stuff like this.

So now I have to wait, and I'm not good at waiting. biggrin
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#4129176 - 12/01/21 10:51 AM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
Haven't posted an update on the Crown Vic in a while. I'd been feeling under the weather for a bit, somehow getting the first head cold I've had in two years and that just sapped the energy right out of me. Plus, with the weather turning from the nice-fall to the rainy-and-miserable-fall I haven't felt like going outside and turning wrenches on the car.



However, parts kept rolling in. First and foremost, a center console. With the Crown Vic being an ex-cop car there's no center console between the seats. It came with one stuffed in the trunk, but that was...well.. not all that great. Very utilitarian, and mostly for hanging radios off of.

Doing a bit of research told me that Crown Vics fit Jeep consoles really well, and that there are a couple of companies doing consoles for Wranglers and such that are popular upgrades for Vic owners. However, with The Big Event being far from over, getting one was difficult. The factory website told me they were all out of stock, Amazon had none, and even the other random Far-East resellers showed no stock.
That is, until I emailed a local Jeep-parts place on a whim. They had a couple, and at a very decent price too. Thank you Jeepparts.nl!
I reused the mounting bracket from the cop console, and in she went. Fits really well, and looks almost factory. Also, it's DEEP. So much room for misc junk! 😃



Another much-desired retrofit (by my wife, mainly) is Remote Keyless Entry. My car (which we've decided to name Burt, btw), is an '07, so some parts were required. Mainly, the antenna plus associated wiring, and a spare Driver Door Module-plug, as you need to add a pin to make it all work. A local junkyard had an '05 Lincoln Town Car, but with 'rona wasn't allowing anyone on to their yard. One month later, and he calls me up to say I have to buy the entire door wiring loom, and that he's cut the antenna off. Mind you, this isn't a bad thing, as it allows me to make my own pigtail harness to place the antenna in a good spot, plus I've now got a MILLION pins and plugs as spare for when I decide to add other stuff down the road.



Anyway, some soldering later, and I've got an antenna ready to go. All I needed to do was pull the door panel off, stick the antenna in, wire up the DDM, and program the whole thing.

And then it started raining, and didn't stop raining for like a week or two. Ugh...

Fortunately we've got an underground car park nearby, so I 'borrowed' one of their spots and set to work. Getting the door panel off is easy (smack it real good) , getting it back on is the hard part (smack it ever so slightly, but still real good). Some faffing about later, and I've got it all in the door. Antenna stuck somewhere out of the way, DDM pinned correctly, wiring tied away. No pictures of this because it was cold as heck, and some Karen apparently called the supervisor so I had to hurry a bit.



Back home I recoded the DDM (which involves doing complicated stuff and converting from decimal to binary and back again. I could not have done it without the guides on here! Thanks!), and lo! It all worked! I got some cheapie remote fobs off of eBay, and to my surprise the junkyard guy included the fob from the Town Car when I picked up the door harness. All three programmed without a problem, and everything works. And yes, that includes the 'Honk-Like-Mad'-button, which I absolutely will not abuse at inappropriate times. xD

Also, I managed to squeeze 10L/100km (1 op 10, or 23.5MPG) out of it. Which with current fuel prices is not bad at all. Makes it almost economical to run.


Edited by GooneyBird (12/01/21 10:58 AM)
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#4129180 - 12/01/21 11:07 AM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Over the Hill

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 3164
Loc: SFV, Calif.
Great job with RKE install! Now you have the option of not adding TPMS, lol.

Eye spy Medium Dark Flint steering wheel in a Charcoal Black interior. One of these would be the ticket.



Edited by SocalSam (12/01/21 11:09 AM)
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#4129190 - 12/01/21 12:30 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
GooneyBird Offline
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
You sir, have a lot of steering wheels. grin

The color difference is actually far less than the photo shows. It's quite close to the color of the seats. It's more the random wood trim that irks me. (To the point where I might wrap the center strip in something similar)
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#4129202 - 12/01/21 02:43 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Registered: 11/13/19
Posts: 640
Loc: Utah
Crap, I'll be your huckleberry on one of those wood trimmed TC wheels with the full SWC's! My sport has Medium light stone interior, which I think is one of those two on the right and center top row.

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#4130770 - 12/19/21 08:02 AM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
Remember where I said earlier that whomever converted my CVPI back to civilian duty actually did quite a neat job? I'd like to retract that statement, or at the very least append to it.

The lower power point/cigarette lighter didn't work, nor did the upper lighter in the ashtray. A few days ago I took the thing apart to see why not, and it turned out that the wiring behind there was a mess with crimp connectors all over the place. I untangled it, and found at least I could make the top cig lighter work again with the correct plug. The lower one was MIA... When behind there I noticed a couple of cut wires coming out of the engine/underhood loom in the pax kickpanel area. I did a probe, and found that the pink one provided me with switched 12V. I soldered on an extension, ran that over to the power point and found.... I did not have the correct connector. So close!

In my Stash O'Stuff I have 2 USB-to-12V adapters. The kind that mount in the dash. So I took the 12V port out, and stuck one of those in, figuring if I'd need to start doing my own wiring I might as well wire in something I'd actually use. Let's be honest here, all we ever use the 12V ports for anyway are to charge up 5V USB gadgets. Wired it to the pink wire, ran a ground to the factory ground point in the pax kick panel area, and we're all good.

Today I figured I'd run a 12V to the trunk area too. I've since acquired the wiring diagrams and saw that the pink 12V cable should extend down the side of the vehicle to the trunk, giving me a convenient point to build upon. From aformentioned Stash O'Stuff came a dual 12V+5V USB extender thing, that I figured I'd hardwire into the switched 12V power in the trunk for a cooler or something nice. So I climbed into the trunk, armed with a multimeter and a flashlight, and found...

..nothing..

All the PI-spec wires to the trunk-area have been cut, aside from the large always-hot 12V point on the right side. Which, of course, I could tap into, but I'd like it to be switched. Which is now not an option anymore. Damnit!

Of course, all the 'normal' stuff is present, and all the lights work, but it looks like they cut the fun stuff when they converted it back. I tried following the pink wire to the trunk from the front, but it seems to be cut at the plug before it even enters the wiring conduit past the B-pillar.

Guess I'll have to source a bunch of wire, and run a new one myself... Is there a convenient way to get to the trunk? Up past the rear seat?
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#4131376 - 12/28/21 04:11 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Registered: 10/17/21
Posts: 30
Loc: The Netherlands
More updates!

Above I said I found nothing while looking for a switched 12V going to the trunk. Well... I didn't look hard enough. In the wire conduit running on the pax side going to the trunk I found a cut pink wire that gave me a good 12V. I crimped on a new length of wire, ran that to the trunk, and stuck that in...


.. this. A 3D-printed box containing a 12V-to-USB-plug from the spares box (the same as I mounted in the dash), and the old cigarette lighter plug from the dash.



I know, don't use those screw-in connectors, but I don't like using crimp connectors and I really need to invest in a mobile soldering iron. It works, and I designed a little nub for the terminal block to hang from, so it's not flapping about.

The box is screwed into the body (and gets its ground from one of the screws) using two already-existing holes. I hate drilling holes in a body, but if they're already there we might as well make use of them.



One day, future generations will look at this picture and wonder why I'm driving around with a supply of medical mouth masks in the trunk.... one day....

Anyway, if any of you guys want that same box and lid, and have a 3D-printer, send me a PM and I'll give you the .stl-files.
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#4131416 - 12/28/21 10:51 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
SocalSam Online   content
Over the Hill

Registered: 03/30/13
Posts: 3164
Loc: SFV, Calif.
Originally Posted By GooneyBird
Haven't posted an update on the Crown Vic in a while. I'd been feeling under the weather for a bit, somehow getting the first head cold I've had in two years and that just sapped the energy right out of me. Plus, with the weather turning from the nice-fall to the rainy-and-miserable-fall I haven't felt like going outside and turning wrenches on the car.



However, parts kept rolling in. First and foremost, a center console. With the Crown Vic being an ex-cop car there's no center console between the seats. It came with one stuffed in the trunk, but that was...well.. not all that great. Very utilitarian, and mostly for hanging radios off of.

Doing a bit of research told me that Crown Vics fit Jeep consoles really well, and that there are a couple of companies doing consoles for Wranglers and such that are popular upgrades for Vic owners. However, with The Big Event being far from over, getting one was difficult. The factory website told me they were all out of stock, Amazon had none, and even the other random Far-East resellers showed no stock.
That is, until I emailed a local Jeep-parts place on a whim. They had a couple, and at a very decent price too. Thank you Jeepparts.nl!
I reused the mounting bracket from the cop console, and in she went. Fits really well, and looks almost factory. Also, it's DEEP. So much room for misc junk! 😃



Another much-desired retrofit (by my wife, mainly) is Remote Keyless Entry. My car (which we've decided to name Burt, btw), is an '07, so some parts were required. Mainly, the antenna plus associated wiring, and a spare Driver Door Module-plug, as you need to add a pin to make it all work. A local junkyard had an '05 Lincoln Town Car, but with 'rona wasn't allowing anyone on to their yard. One month later, and he calls me up to say I have to buy the entire door wiring loom, and that he's cut the antenna off. Mind you, this isn't a bad thing, as it allows me to make my own pigtail harness to place the antenna in a good spot, plus I've now got a MILLION pins and plugs as spare for when I decide to add other stuff down the road.



Anyway, some soldering later, and I've got an antenna ready to go. All I needed to do was pull the door panel off, stick the antenna in, wire up the DDM, and program the whole thing.

And then it started raining, and didn't stop raining for like a week or two. Ugh...

Fortunately we've got an underground car park nearby, so I 'borrowed' one of their spots and set to work. Getting the door panel off is easy (smack it real good) , getting it back on is the hard part (smack it ever so slightly, but still real good). Some faffing about later, and I've got it all in the door. Antenna stuck somewhere out of the way, DDM pinned correctly, wiring tied away. No pictures of this because it was cold as heck, and some Karen apparently called the supervisor so I had to hurry a bit.



Back home I recoded the DDM (which involves doing complicated stuff and converting from decimal to binary and back again. I could not have done it without the guides on here! Thanks!), and lo! It all worked! I got some cheapie remote fobs off of eBay, and to my surprise the junkyard guy included the fob from the Town Car when I picked up the door harness. All three programmed without a problem, and everything works. And yes, that includes the 'Honk-Like-Mad'-button, which I absolutely will not abuse at inappropriate times. xD

Also, I managed to squeeze 10L/100km (1 op 10, or 23.5MPG) out of it. Which with current fuel prices is not bad at all. Makes it almost economical to run.


I've had my driver door panel off countless times fixing stuff and installing options. The trick with installing panel is to remove the handle first so you do not have to align the handle to the latch. Makes installing the panel easy.

I just got into Forscan myself. None of the youtube videos I looked at tinkered with As Built format. Used one of the many Hex to Binary converters to finish configuring my Message Center instrument cluster. If you have not seen it, google search "Forscan Panther spreadsheet" for more options.

And another (unsolicited) tip... Fantastic you got the complete door harness. Pins are very easy to extract from the connector. Use a bamboo kabob stick to release the pin. Works every time.


Edited by SocalSam (12/28/21 10:53 PM)
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#4131418 - 12/28/21 10:55 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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Loc: SFV, Calif.
Photos of Crown Vics cruising in European cities are always welcome.
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#4131482 - 12/29/21 07:53 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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You’ve got Grand Marquis side marker lights.

And is that a Dickey’s BBQ cup.. lmao laugh


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#4131674 - 12/31/21 11:05 PM Re: 2007 CVPI - making the move from Texas to Europe [Re: GooneyBird]
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What a great build/project. It’s got to be awesome having a unique but recognizable car in a place almost no one else has one. So cool.
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