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#422346 - 04/15/04 12:59 PM Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I recently purchased a 99 PI with 80k on it from my local state surplus agency.
The car is in great condition overall, but I'm having one issue I can't seem to figure out.

When I make sharp turns (particularly U-Turns), and the wheel is turned almost all of the way in either direction, I will feel and hear a rather loud clunk noise / vibration. People standing several feet away can also hear this noise, so it's lead to some strange looks.

It only happens once, and then won't happen again until I straighten the wheel out and turn it far left or right again.

My steering performs fine outside of that, but I can't imagine this is a good thing. Any ideas? Suggestions?


Jeff

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#422347 - 04/15/04 02:34 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I am not clear on this problem, however I am guessing that the problem lies in the tierods. I know that my car does the same darn thing, and developed into 2 clunk noises. I have the rods, however, I have not replaced them yet. I would make sure that your steering components are greased as often as you change your oil, if you havent already.

I am guessing tierods. Being a component of the steering system, they wear out a lot.
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Current Project: Bleed ABS to fix brake pull

Repairs Pending: front-end links, thermo clutch fan, replace tensioner assembly, replace inefficient alternator, 1 tierod, idler arm, upper and lower control arm bushings, new freeze plugs, and thats about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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#422348 - 04/15/04 02:50 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
Brett C. Cammack Offline
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Don't the steering stops do this on these cars when they need to be greased?
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#422349 - 04/15/04 02:57 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I have no idea, but my car does the same thing.
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#422350 - 04/15/04 03:16 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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All my stuff is greased, and still the noise continues...
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'92 CV P74 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/can.gif" alt="" /> Autolamps. Premium Sound w/ Pioneer Deck, Rockford 6x9 Pioneer 6x8. 140k miles. Power Doors, Windows, Seats. Digital Dash. Bastard Block w/ AOD and clunky TC. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> 99' Steering Gear. ENS sway bushings <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. New paint,but peeled about a year later >:|. Super 40 Flowmaster Muffler (Sounds best in cold weather). Heater Core Replaced (Darn the top plenum bolt!).

Current Project: Bleed ABS to fix brake pull

Repairs Pending: front-end links, thermo clutch fan, replace tensioner assembly, replace inefficient alternator, 1 tierod, idler arm, upper and lower control arm bushings, new freeze plugs, and thats about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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#422351 - 04/15/04 03:26 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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A wasted idler arm will also make a clunk-type noise even if the wheels aren't steered to full lock (thereby exonerating non-greased steering stops).

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#422352 - 04/15/04 03:39 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I wish I would have known that, I would have replaced that instead of the pitman arm.
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'92 CV P74 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/can.gif" alt="" /> Autolamps. Premium Sound w/ Pioneer Deck, Rockford 6x9 Pioneer 6x8. 140k miles. Power Doors, Windows, Seats. Digital Dash. Bastard Block w/ AOD and clunky TC. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> 99' Steering Gear. ENS sway bushings <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. New paint,but peeled about a year later >:|. Super 40 Flowmaster Muffler (Sounds best in cold weather). Heater Core Replaced (Darn the top plenum bolt!).

Current Project: Bleed ABS to fix brake pull

Repairs Pending: front-end links, thermo clutch fan, replace tensioner assembly, replace inefficient alternator, 1 tierod, idler arm, upper and lower control arm bushings, new freeze plugs, and thats about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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#422353 - 04/15/04 04:48 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I had my idler arm replaced a week ago, and even after that I still had that clunking noise while turning, especially if going out of a driveway/down an incline. (decline?) I read somewhere on this forum that all the panthers do this. I can't find the post right now though.

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#422354 - 04/15/04 05:15 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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95 Town Car made a terrible noise in sharp left turns, frightened my wife, she thought someting major was about to fall off the front end. I greased the steering stops (on the back of each lower A frame) and no more noise. Might not be your problem, but very cheap to try.
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#422355 - 04/15/04 08:11 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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I appreciate the responses. I've never had to grease anything under the hood before, and I'm loathe to pay a mechanic to do it. I've done all sorts of other general maintinence (oil changes, rotations, changing the alternator on a Saturn **for those that don't know, on older saturns, the alternator is on the BOTTOM of the engine and necessitates taking off a wheel and triple jointed arms.**)

So, I can do it, but would appreciate some guidance.
What do I need and where would I be looking?

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#422356 - 04/15/04 09:05 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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Auto parts stores will have grease guns and grease. I saw a cheap grease gun at walmart, and picked up some mobil 1 grease at autozone. I suggest buying a extension for the grease gun, assuming you dont buy one with a flexible head. I spent a few bucks at autozone and bought a male-to-male grease gun extension. I never greased anything under the car when I got my oil changes done, however, I started doing my own oil changes and so I have to grease my front-end components.

Greasing the parts is simple, pop the grease nozzle on the grease nipple, and pump the gun.

P.S. I assumed you were inquiring how to do your own grease-gun work.
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'92 CV P74 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/can.gif" alt="" /> Autolamps. Premium Sound w/ Pioneer Deck, Rockford 6x9 Pioneer 6x8. 140k miles. Power Doors, Windows, Seats. Digital Dash. Bastard Block w/ AOD and clunky TC. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> 99' Steering Gear. ENS sway bushings <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. New paint,but peeled about a year later >:|. Super 40 Flowmaster Muffler (Sounds best in cold weather). Heater Core Replaced (Darn the top plenum bolt!).

Current Project: Bleed ABS to fix brake pull

Repairs Pending: front-end links, thermo clutch fan, replace tensioner assembly, replace inefficient alternator, 1 tierod, idler arm, upper and lower control arm bushings, new freeze plugs, and thats about it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

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#422357 - 04/15/04 10:50 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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Registered: 06/23/01
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I think it is the steering stops and if so it aint no big deal, let it bang
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#422358 - 04/16/04 06:22 AM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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Registered: 09/26/03
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Quote:

I had my idler arm replaced a week ago, and even after that I still had that clunking noise while turning, especially if going out of a driveway/down an incline. (decline?) I read somewhere on this forum that all the panthers do this. I can't find the post right now though.


My 2000 will make that noise when backing down an incline driveway.Noise comes from the rear. Probably is the body flexing a little.The twisting of the body with the wheels being turned to the left or right as I back down the driveway. Front never makes any noise ever. My old 84 would though-real loud due no doubt to severely worn ball joints etc.
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#422359 - 04/16/04 01:19 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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1st do a search on "steering AND clunk" and you'll find a buttload of them.

Put car in parking space. Turn wheel all the way to the right, as far as it will physically go.
Get out of car and look at left tire.
at the back of the tire, inside the wheel parts, you'll see a post looking thing that is pointing at the engine compartment. Where it would be logical that this post looking thing would hit on the frame is a triangular notch. These are largish parts, they are not easily missed. Don't look for miniature things.
Where the notch is, take some white grease and spray it into the notch. There is little around that so overspray is not a problem.

White grease is available at any auto parts store and most hardware stores.

That's all there is to it.

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#422360 - 04/16/04 02:41 PM Re: Steering Clunk / Vibration
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Thanks Dan.
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