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#530059 - 08/31/04 07:29 PM window problem
johnoh Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 332
Loc: Dallas, TX
Today my front right window made a loud cracking sound as it was closing and then it stopped alogether, and now it does not work at all. I found two pieces of broken white plastic on the bottom of the door well after taking apart the door, and the silver metal cable was dangling. The glass is fine.

The guy at the Ford Parts counter said a piece of routing plastic from my regulator has broken off and he showed me how to put on a new one. It costs $89 for the regulator, and one of the mechanics offered to come over and install it for me for $50 if I did not want to hassle with it, and I'm inclined to have him do that.

But first I thought I'd ask if anyone has a better idea, or if perhaps I can avoid paying $89 for the regulator. My thinking is that a junkyard regulator isn't a good bet since if the palstic tends to break anyway, why get an old one that wil just break sooner. Thanks.
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#530060 - 08/31/04 09:26 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 12164
Loc: Louisville, KY
Window Regulators sell new on ebay for $29.99

http://search.ebay.com/crown-vic-window_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8

Where I bought my car, he charges $25 to install. You CAN do it yourself, there's alot to do because you have to take off so much stuff, drill out somethings to get to the screws, etc.

I've seen it done 3 times.
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#530061 - 08/31/04 11:56 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 04/02/04
Posts: 2666
Loc: MA
My driver door one made the same sound and now does not work. Could it be my motor? Or just the regulator? My dad said my motor was gone and have to replace it.
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#530062 - 09/01/04 12:01 AM Re: window problem
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Registered: 08/28/01
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Loc: Louisville, KY
If you hear the crackling sound, it is the regulator. The crackling sound is the cable twisting and bunching up.

The motors are RARELY the culprit vs the regulator.
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#530063 - 09/01/04 12:03 AM Re: window problem
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Registered: 04/02/04
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Loc: MA
Ahhh I see then, yep, I heard a loud crunching sound, it went up all the way, went down about two inches, and never came back up, had to pull it up with my hands. Thanks for the info though, here I was going to get a whole motor.
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#530064 - 09/01/04 12:14 AM Re: window problem
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Loc: Louisville, KY
I've had two windows fail. drivers left and drivers right (this is ford confusion for drivers and drivers rear)

I rolled down the windows to the car when pulling it up to the garage to get it fixed.. crunch the drivers rear failed broke right there.

You need a drill because there are some "buttons" you have to drill out so you can access the screws. You will also have to remove all door trim (even the exterior piece) as this makes it possible later to actually remove the window (yes you have to). I can almost do it by memory but need to be looking at the door. (visual person)
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#530065 - 09/01/04 12:21 AM Re: window problem
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Registered: 04/02/04
Posts: 2666
Loc: MA
lol, I'm going to have my cousin's garage put it on for me. I have heard stories where if you're not careful with the window, there is some sort of blade that can cut your hand? Is this true?
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#530066 - 09/01/04 12:40 AM Re: window problem
tbug Offline
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Registered: 02/15/04
Posts: 5381
Loc: Michigan
defentially a Window Regulator, *thinks back to when his broke* I remember the plastic, wrie, etc all too well cause I thought it was just the motor and tried so many times to put it back togather, it just won't happen.

Now for the blade theory I don't know if anything ready to jump out and cut you unless you broke the glass or started reaching around looking for a sharp object
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#530067 - 09/01/04 09:32 AM Re: window problem
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Registered: 06/07/04
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Quote:

Window Regulators sell new on ebay for $29.99

http://search.ebay.com/crown-vic-window_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8

Where I bought my car, he charges $25 to install. You CAN do it yourself, there's alot to do because you have to take off so much stuff, drill out somethings to get to the screws, etc.

I've seen it done 3 times.




Thanks, I just now bought the ebay regulator, now I have to get it installed. The mechanic at Ford said it would take him 20 minutes but Ford would charge me and arm and a leg - then his bud at the counter gave me the number of this independant joe who said he'd do it for $50. But if it is an easy job (for an experienced person) maybe $25 is possible.

The question is how do you find independant guys who work cheap? I called my local shop and they quoted me $70. There wouldn't be by any chance someone here who wants a little freelance work? (in Dallas)
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#530068 - 09/01/04 05:50 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 12164
Loc: Louisville, KY
Where do you live? I'm in Louisville KY

The guy I bought my P71 from did mine. He is in Ky south of Louisville. I could maybe create and article on how to do it but I have to use pictures.
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#530069 - 09/01/04 07:20 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 02/27/02
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Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
I found it to be a very simple job, took me less than a half hour
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#530070 - 09/01/04 07:39 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 03/31/04
Posts: 108
Go to lincolnsonline.com/article11.html and see how to do it. fwiw, but even if ya screw it up, you can always drive it to a shop and let them do it....just dont lose any parts(screws, nuts,etc.)

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#530071 - 09/01/04 07:41 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 03/31/04
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Go to lincolnsonline.com/article11.html and see how to do it. fwiw, but even if ya screw it up, you can always drive it to a shop and let them do it....just dont lose any parts(screws, nuts,etc.) Oh, forgot to mention its in their 'tech' section.

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#530072 - 09/01/04 07:44 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 08/28/01
Posts: 12164
Loc: Louisville, KY
That's a great and lengthy article.. but if you are like me.. without pictures I would be lost.
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#530073 - 09/01/04 07:57 PM Re: window problem
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Try article27 then, its for the rear but they are similar...www.lincolnsonline/article27.html fwiw and they gots pics for ya to boot

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#530074 - 09/01/04 08:56 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 02/27/02
Posts: 12132
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Or a shop manual...
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#530075 - 09/09/04 04:30 PM Re: window problem
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 332
Loc: Dallas, TX
okay this local guy just put in the new one for $50. He came to my workplace and did it in the lot. As we were testing it I noticed he had put a 4"x1/8" scratch in my window tint. He said "yeah that happens - there is no way to avoid it. But I could knock $20 off if that's what you want, if that's the way you want to play it, if that's the way you are going to be". So I said yeah I guess so and then he lost it and got mad and called me an a-hole. I tried not to escalate the situation with him since he appeared unstable. Probably just mad at himself for screwing it up. A bizarre scene overall
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