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#803623 - 10/20/05 06:50 PM Best Fog Lights?
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ok.. lo0king for fog/driving lights. requirements:

- rectangular in shape

- white (no blue/green tint)

- bright!!

- no more than six inches long, three inches high

- less than $75

what's my best bet? there are eleventy billion on ebay.
help me out fellers! thanks!
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#803624 - 10/20/05 06:54 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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fog lights=yellow
driving lights=white

they DO make combo fog/driving lights.
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#803625 - 10/20/05 07:01 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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fog lights are only yellow? i thought the only thing with
fog lights is that they were mounted low. does it really
matter what color they are?
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#803626 - 10/20/05 07:09 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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fog lights=yellow
driving lights=white

they DO make combo fog/driving lights.




Color has nothing to do with it. Its the reflector design. Although yellow is supposed to be better for a fog light then white. And yes fog lights should be mounted low to avoid the light reflecting back of the moisture in air(fog) in your eyes.
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#803627 - 10/20/05 07:53 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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Ask A Scientist©
Physics Archive

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Fog lights

Question: Why are fog lights yellow? Does it help that they are? Does it matter
if
you are driving in city or countryside?
jessica v.

Answer: My understanding is that it is important for fog lights to be one color
(rather than white, which is all colors) because the different
wavelengths(colors) of visible light scatter off the fog droplets
differently. This phenomenon is known as "dispersion," because the
different colors of light in an image will separate from each other,
causing the image to "disperse." If you illuminate the road with only one
wavelength (color) of light, the images of the objects you see will still
become somewhat blurry because of the scattering of light by the fog, but
at least you won't have extra problems from dispersion. So, if we want to
use just one wavelength of light, which wavelength should we use? It turns
out that light with short wavelengths scatters more than light with long
wavelengths (short to long: violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange,
red). So, a long wavelength light will be best. There's another thing to
consider, too: our eyes are not equally sensitive to all colors. It turns
out that we are most sensitive to yellow and green light. So, our best
compromise between sensitivity for our eyes and a long wavelength for least
scattering is yellow light.
Now, I don't know what kind of light bulbs are used in fog lights, but
another consideration used in street lighting is cost and efficiency. You
may have seen some yellow street lighting in some places; this is
"low-pressure sodium vapor" lighting. The special thing about this light
is that it is almost entirely one (actually two very close together)
wavelength of yellow light, and that it gives the most illumination for the
amount of electricity. A big problem with this light, though, is that it
throws off color perception. Under sodium vapor light, something blue
looks gray. This makes it hard to, say, recognize your car in a parking
lot.
Richard Barrans Jr., Ph.D.







lol..retarded boy....

I would agree that reflector is 80% of it... the dual fog/driving light would IMO best be mounted in the outside edges of the airdam of the 98+ vic... the GOOD ones..have adjustable aim.. for each reflector.. not just "you adjust it by mountingit properly" ..although those would DEFINITEY cost more than 70$..
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#803628 - 10/20/05 11:27 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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lol..retarded boy....



With the exception of old BMWs, old Mercedes, and older Lexus' all the factory FOG lights i've seen are white, and all have been avertised as FOG not driving lights. Not saying yellow isn't better but for the makers of high-end automobiles to switch to white it can't be extremely better. Also yellow fogs don't look good to me or apparantly most of the automotive industry.
The yellow fogs remind me of those big ol' like 6" round Bosch lights they used to have on rally and some foreign cars
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#803629 - 10/21/05 11:44 AM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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I have PIAA 1400 series fog lamps on my Vic. They're nice. They're small. They are more than $75 though. The black ones which I have put out yellow light. The silver ones put out white light I belive. http://www.piaa.com/ for specs. I bought mine here http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/ Best price I could find on the net.
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#803630 - 10/21/05 12:59 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
KevinT Offline
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well, i don't want yellow lights on the front of my car,
even though they may help. i just can't stand yellow
lights. anyway, as far as brands go, would piaa be my
best bet, ya think? thanks for the info guys.
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#803631 - 10/21/05 01:19 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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I've never used another PIAA product besides the 1400 series I have on my car now. I can say that I like the 1400 series lights. They seem to be high quality. PIAA makes a bunch of other fog and driving light kits. The 2100 series is another one that you may be interested in. The 2100s are listed on the PIAA site as being compatible with our cars but that professional installation is recommended. I don't know what they mean by that.

Anyways, PIAA products are supposed to be good as are Hella products. I think most people here would probably agree with those two as best choices.
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#803632 - 10/21/05 01:33 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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The shape of the beam differentiates fog lights from driving lights. There are clear and yellow fog lights. I wouldn't want yellow ones, either.
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#803633 - 10/21/05 05:09 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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I might add fog lights on my squadshield
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#803634 - 10/21/05 05:41 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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I might add fog lights on my squadshield




alrightie then.
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#803635 - 10/21/05 06:00 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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For driving lights, Vicmaster has me set on Pilot 1092W driving lights. They look good on his areo, so I'm getting a pair here soon.

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#803636 - 10/21/05 07:35 PM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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Kevin,

I prefer my new Driving Lights. I just installed all MM parts from the Header Panel forward!! But its a little more than $75.00!

On the bright side its the first ever Marauder/Crown Victoria mut!

B.J.

Sorry.. I had to brag.
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#803637 - 10/22/05 03:27 AM Re: Best Fog Lights?
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got pics? love to see!
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