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#4125472 - 10/23/21 06:38 PM Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe
Freddy12189 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/20
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I got nice new snow tires mounted for my spare stock steel 16s for my 99MGM. They are Uniroyal Tiger Paw tires. I want to know if it would be good enough just to stud the 2 rear tires. Or should I get all 4 studded?

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#4125480 - 10/23/21 08:50 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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As a general rule, you shouldn't just use snow tires or studded snow tires on only the drive wheels. Now with studs, the only time they really make a difference is on icy surfaces, so I guess an argument could be made that it might be okay to only stud the rears.

I use snow tires on my winter car every year (not my Vic) and whatever I do to one axle I do the same to the other.
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#4125494 - 10/23/21 10:34 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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IMO and experience, a good set of all-seasons will do a Vic just fine, as long as you don't drive like a gorilla. Up to about six inches of snow, that is.

When we had the Challenger I put Blizzaks on each winter, which was good because the stock tires were terrible even in rain, and the damn thing had 300 horsepower. Always felt sure-footed in snow, but squirmy on dry pavement, and loud. Never tried studs, never needed them. The Blizzaks were good as long as there was ground clearance. Challenger has none, but the front spoiler acted as a snowplow.

Here's me coming back from a doctor's appointment that I didn't want to miss and getting stuck in the driveway:

Now we traded that for an AWD CX-5, which I'm gonna try on all-seasons for one winter and see how it does. Since I don't drive like a gorilla, it should be fine.
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#4125540 - 10/24/21 04:16 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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Registered: 11/13/19
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I go all four snow tires on my main driver Vic each winter. Last year was those beastly Firestone non-studded Firehawk PVS and they were very good, the year before it was some noisy as hell studded somethings, I forget which brand. This year I have some studded Michelins. I tend to like studded on all four tires because I live in Utah, where we have a lot of melting and refreezing winters, this results in many periods of intermittent black ice. I once totalled an Audi A8 quattro, the most sure footed of sedans on a patch of black ice coming back from Park City, going 20 miles UNDER the posted speed limit. Once I hit the patch, I knew I was gone and after the crash, I got to watch eight other cars crash behind me. Fun times.

I like the studs on the front as well because they tend to get the steering wheels going in the direction you've just steered, rather than planing straight ahead as the rears push.
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#4125566 - 10/24/21 08:09 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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On RWD cars I've only ever run snow tires on the rears. It's always getting moving that's a problem not steering. With good winter tires and knowledge of winter driving you rarely need studs. Here they aren't allowed anywa.

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#4125594 - 10/25/21 12:12 AM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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One other thing I should say about studs, last time I took a set of snow tires in to my local tire shop, guys who do work for me and my many vics about every other week, they REFUSED to stud tires I brought to them. They said for liability reasons they'd only stud new tires I bought from them.

Don't know if that applies everywhere, but for what it's worth.

And out here in Utah, not only are studs legal from October to March, but they're actually mandatory (that or chains) on the roads going to the ski resorts and mountain passes. We need them to help us turn and climb because we have things called curves and mountains on our roads, unlike the barren straight flats of Manitoba.


Edited by Dmblanch (10/25/21 12:13 AM)
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#4125634 - 10/25/21 08:46 AM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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Pretty standard, if there is a little stone imbedded in the stud hole of the tire you bring them it busts a finger(s) off the studder, so pretty much nobody will stud a tire that they don't personally know has never been mounted. I supposed if you offer to put down in cash the full cost of the replacement fingers they might do them.
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#4125770 - 10/25/21 08:55 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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I ran all seasons last 2 winters and it was pretty bad. I leave for work at 4am (3am in snow storms to have time) and its way before plows come out here. Only times I missed work was because it took me 2 hours to get 2 blocks so I had to call in to work and tell them I cant make it. I have only 2 ways out of town and both are up steep hills and its embarrassing to get stuck and start sliding backwards when its icy/snowed. I called Mavis tire they said 25 dollars a tire for studs. Place I got the tires (Monroe) said they dont do studs. Tires never been on a car yet still have the stickers on them. I think I will do all 4 if I have the money if not at least the rear end.

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#4125788 - 10/25/21 10:45 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
Craig1985 Offline
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Loc: New Jersey
I use Michelin Xi3, it will be the fourth winter season in which I will use these tires. I am planning to replace it during the Black Friday sale next month. I am checking shops like 4wheelonline for other alternatives.

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#4125796 - 10/26/21 01:34 AM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Freddy12189]
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I have Goodyear Ultra Grips, and they do make a big difference here. We get enough snow, and temps below 40F, for the compound and tread to make a difference.

Studs are legal here too, but I live in town, so not really needed.

I would definitely do the same thing on both axles though, for the sake of the ABS/Traction control and all that jazz.
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#4126512 - 10/30/21 02:53 PM Re: Got new snow tires. Question about studs.steel whe [Re: Dmblanch]
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Originally Posted By Dmblanch
We need them to help us turn and climb because we have things called curves and mountains on our roads, unlike the barren straight flats of Manitoba.


That's the fun winter driving. I don't know what Manitoba is like but those straight flat roads are where studs are needed the most that's where you get flash freezing and white outs from wind without warning and everything turns to a smooth skating rink. Usually when you are miles from anywhere to stop.

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